Hey guys I cleaned a daycare this weekend using flex with citrus and then followed it with encap ds2. Anyway I got a call from the daycare today saying a kid went home with an allergic reaction. Has anybody else ever experienced anything like this? Thanks
Allergic reaction
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Desk Jockey
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Justin how do they know its from the carpet?
Desk Jockey
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People can be allergic to just about anything. One of girls that works here has a son with severe peanut allergies. Check with Rick but I believe tea oil is inert. ???
As far as the solutions anything is possible, but probably more likely something he ate or drank.
I'd be concerned, but not overly, just keep in contact with them. You could offer a clear water rinse but remind them you clean hundreds/thousands of carpets a year and don't have this issue come up.
As far as the solutions anything is possible, but probably more likely something he ate or drank.
I'd be concerned, but not overly, just keep in contact with them. You could offer a clear water rinse but remind them you clean hundreds/thousands of carpets a year and don't have this issue come up.
Thanks. I did speak with Brenda at excellent supply. This is just the first time I've ever come across anything like this.
Papa John
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Some people are actrually allergic to citrus!
I was shocked and scared when I heard this...
Hum! Are over protective mothers making kids to less durible (pussies) when we were kids? We drank water from garden hoses, rode bikes with out helmets, And the school monkey bars didnt have rubber mats under them..
I was shocked and scared when I heard this...
Hum! Are over protective mothers making kids to less durible (pussies) when we were kids? We drank water from garden hoses, rode bikes with out helmets, And the school monkey bars didnt have rubber mats under them..
Desk Jockey
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LOL
Maybe the Kid was allergic to something actually being Clean : )
The Great Oz
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Might not be your chemistry, but you can't easily rule out this combo having a negative effect on the kid either.
Anywhere kids are going to be on the carpet should not be considered a commercial environment where you can use a high-residue product. Likewise places where people with compromised immune systems are going to be, like medical offices or senior centers.
This is a situation that needs to be taken seriously to keep from losing more than just this account. While not taking responsibility for the reaction, I'd still get out there and rinse the carpet ASAP.
PS: I used to joke about chemical sensitivities until I learned more, and had more friends in the cleaning and restoration business develop them. They all think their problems are due to the chemicals they carelessly handled while working.
Anywhere kids are going to be on the carpet should not be considered a commercial environment where you can use a high-residue product. Likewise places where people with compromised immune systems are going to be, like medical offices or senior centers.
This is a situation that needs to be taken seriously to keep from losing more than just this account. While not taking responsibility for the reaction, I'd still get out there and rinse the carpet ASAP.
PS: I used to joke about chemical sensitivities until I learned more, and had more friends in the cleaning and restoration business develop them. They all think their problems are due to the chemicals they carelessly handled while working.
Desk Jockey
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It does say tea tree oil can have allergenic reactions in some children but that is direct application to the skin. Diluted in the cleaning agent would have to be very minimal.
I agree rinsing would be in your best interest.
I agree rinsing would be in your best interest.
rwcarpet
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I had 1 reaction years ago, and I was using Procyon as prespray and rinse.
Could it have been all the candy he ate the day before?
Could it have been all the candy he ate the day before?
ruff
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Regardless of what caused it, do what Bryan said ASAP.
Rinse with a product that is DFE and Green seal certified, or maybe one of Master Blend Responsible care rinses. I think they are Hypoallergenic.
Appeasing the concerns, showing care and using certified products will help.
Even though I played one on t.v. I am not a lawyer. So if there may be legal issues consult one before you do anything.
Rinse with a product that is DFE and Green seal certified, or maybe one of Master Blend Responsible care rinses. I think they are Hypoallergenic.
Appeasing the concerns, showing care and using certified products will help.
Even though I played one on t.v. I am not a lawyer. So if there may be legal issues consult one before you do anything.
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Desk Jockey
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Can I sue you for consulting with me without a license?
Doctor said it could have been an allergic reaction to the carpet cleaning. My guess would be the tea tree oil. This child has previous history of having very sensitive skin. I'm gonna go back in this evening and do a clear water rinse that will hopefully take care of everything.
Desk Jockey
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Was he crawling on the carpet or just being in the environment?
Desk Jockey
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I have pretty sensitive skin and it's never bothered me.......and while I'm no child, I've been know to act like a baby.
Hey Doc!
It's okay to powder down there buddy.
Used to work with this godzilla mother fooker! Every once in a while he'd be in a hurry an leave a trail. Man we used to rag on him, almost killed a few of us, lol
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It's okay to powder down there buddy.
Used to work with this godzilla mother fooker! Every once in a while he'd be in a hurry an leave a trail. Man we used to rag on him, almost killed a few of us, lol
Sent from da parking garage of dee detention center
Being a daycare I'm assuming he was on the carpet... Although the room he was in only had one small section that I encapped
Lee Stockwell
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Seasonal pollen allergies are much more severe than normal this spring. A more likely trigger than the carpet.
Being a daycare I'm assuming he was on the carpet... Although the room he was in only had one small section that I encapped
GeneMiller
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Another good reason encapping isn't the best method. Can you imagine if you only tried to clean with a cotton pad.
gnee
gnee
ruff
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Can I sue you for consulting with me without a license?
Only if you're ready to kick the bucket, paint watcher.
Ron Werner
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you could also see if you could test the child for allergies to your solutions,
Carpets always get blamed. And by association, we get blamed.
Carpets always get blamed. And by association, we get blamed.
dgardner
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Ron Werner
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let a doctor do it. Can't just keep blaming the carpet "just because". If he rinses and the kid still gets a reaction, then what?
ruff
Member
Anybody can get a reaction from practically any kind of product.
The main idea here is to show and demonstrate to the clients that you are responsive, that you care and that you'll take care of rinsing it quickly and thoroughly.
Most people will understand about allergies and will appreciate a quick heartfelt response. Most people are not looking to take advantage, if they do, one can always go the legal rout in which everybody loses. His goal right now, is not to vindicate the entire carpet in the U.S. from being blamed for everything under the sun.
He'll do that later.
The main idea here is to show and demonstrate to the clients that you are responsive, that you care and that you'll take care of rinsing it quickly and thoroughly.
Most people will understand about allergies and will appreciate a quick heartfelt response. Most people are not looking to take advantage, if they do, one can always go the legal rout in which everybody loses. His goal right now, is not to vindicate the entire carpet in the U.S. from being blamed for everything under the sun.
He'll do that later.
Allergic reactions are just that........... Allergic....... Reactions.
Everyone reacts differently to different items that they may or may not be allergic to.
An allergy is a hypersensitivity disorder of the immune system
I don't think anyone on this carpet cleaning forum has ever received their certificate as a medical practitioner, let along done the extra 2-3 years to become an allergist.
Let's not all jump to conclusions because the "Doctor said it could have been an allergic reaction to the carpet cleaning".
It could also have been something completely different.
If it was my kid, I'd be getting him/her along to an Allergist to check via various tests, (there is more than one), to see what he/she is allergic to.
This will provide peace of mind for the parents as well as the kid and know what to avoid in future.
Everyone reacts differently to different items that they may or may not be allergic to.
An allergy is a hypersensitivity disorder of the immune system
I don't think anyone on this carpet cleaning forum has ever received their certificate as a medical practitioner, let along done the extra 2-3 years to become an allergist.
Let's not all jump to conclusions because the "Doctor said it could have been an allergic reaction to the carpet cleaning".
It could also have been something completely different.
If it was my kid, I'd be getting him/her along to an Allergist to check via various tests, (there is more than one), to see what he/she is allergic to.
This will provide peace of mind for the parents as well as the kid and know what to avoid in future.
Ok guys I cleaned this daycare again this passed weekend. I presprayed with Flex with citrus and then rinsed with endzone. This evening I got another email that a child developed a rash and then today after spending time on the carpet it got worse. I'm going back in tomorrow to rinse it all again but how would you handle this. What products would you use in this type of situation so that this doesn't happen again. This is the second time in as many cleanings that a child has developed a reaction after a cleaning.
hogjowl
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I'm allergic to red and blue colored DAPs
The Great Oz
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We're partial to HydraMaster's Safe Clean line. We clean for a lot of people that have chemical sensitivities and have had only one person that said she had a reaction. But she wore a bubble suit when she went out, so maybe was beyond help.
If you showed up with a "green" labeled product to use as a rinse and the kid came in the next day and had no problems, you could reasonably surmise that the product you were using is the culprit.
If you showed up with a "green" labeled product to use as a rinse and the kid came in the next day and had no problems, you could reasonably surmise that the product you were using is the culprit.
