I need a quick fix for some slight pile direction change on a wtw wool silk blend.

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I need a quick fix for some slight pile direction change on a wtw wool silk blend.
Can distilled water or a some sort or Downy type softener be misted on followed by a grooming?
 

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Be careful!

The "yellow crumb" is going to get you! It is that product that is dissolved in a caustic solution to form viscose.

Add water to make a potential mess. Both in pile distortion and discoloration.
 

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You appear to be obsessed..

I hate the product right now!

Tip to know:

Tannic acid
combined with iron rich water forms tannin stains. Oxalic and citric acids reduce the iron compounds helping to suppress the formation of tannin staining.

In summary, acids such as citric or oxalic will brighten, neutralize and remove tannin stains from wood species containing tannic acid. (Viscose is loosely called by me a wood species)

Note: Cooks have long known, that to keep fresh cut fruits from browning, they are to use citric acid. Citric acid (2-hydroxy-1,2,3-propanetricar-boxylic acid) is a weak tricarboxylic acid.
 
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No one on planet earth would even notice but these folks...

Acquired mid 2016.... :eekk:

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There are some machines (some with vacuums attached) that have a brush for cleaning mainly hard surface floors. I have an oreck steam wand that uses microfibre towels but I have seen others that use a brush. Even a microfibre towel may work. You will want to pull it towards you instead of pushing it. Gently.
 
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Sure, with a bridgeless glide..

We've done it many times with little to no fanfare, but there was a discrepancy this time between my two teams on who were supposed to clean whatand where. The team that got stuck cleaning this, the most difficult area in the house, were not too happy about it and I fear they went too fast..
 

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It's usually the silk content that's the problem. Hot water and silk don't always play nice. You might try cleaning the area by just pulling the wand in the direction you want the pile to go. Lift it completely off the carpet going forward. Low pressure, low heat.
 

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What size Blower and what kind of Glide? Psi and flow? What kind of pile groomer was used?
Pile distortion is usually a culprit of the mechanics of cleaning not chemical,unless of course you're a real hack.
 

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This is a formula that relaxes natural fibers and allows them to be groomed as you wish. I have used it on upholstery and drapes many times, but don't recall ever using it on carpet. Since it is the same fibers, it seems like it should work.

I make this in a 32 ounce trigger sprayer. You can adjust quantities for other sizes.

1 to 2 ounces of a good quality fabric softener. Use something that does not have much color. There is one that works great but is dark purple. You don't want to spray that on a white carpet.
about 15 ounces of rubbing alcohol / IPA
about 15 ounces of distilled water

The exact proportions are not critical. A little more water has less odor and works a little slower, dries a little slower. The reverse if you use a little more alcohol.

Mist on enough to dampen the fibers. Allow two or three minutes for it to be absorbed. Groom.
 

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The issue that I've found difficult with this kind of carpets & rugs is that usually they have nap reversal, which makes it impossible to run the wand with the nap direction.
 

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The issue that I've found difficult with this kind of carpets & rugs is that usually they have nap reversal, which makes it impossible to run the wand with the nap direction.


Not the case, this is a bit (literally) of pile that needed more grooming after wanding

Now that it's dry we need a quick fix
 

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I second my facebook post.. Clothes Steamer... give it a little steam and work with a grooming brush with the lay of the pile.. and did I miss some something or is Tom really just on a Viscose kick?
 
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I second my facebook post.. Clothes Steamer... give it a little steam and work with a grooming brush with the lay of the pile.. and did I miss some something or is Tom really just on a Viscose kick?


Not sure what's that's all about with Tom but the billionaire called today and said nevermind....
 

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Most of the issue with real silk pile is that it wants to "tuck and curl" when water is used. It doesn't take steam or water to correct, it takes careful, dry pick-work with a fine stainless brush.

You appear to be obsessed..
It has become one of the larger problems in the rug cleaning industry. We charge silk prices for dealing with it, one of the ways to price ourselves out of dealing with the worst examples.
 

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Most of the issue with real silk pile is that it wants to "tuck and curl" when water is used. It doesn't take steam or water to correct, it takes careful, dry pick-work with a fine stainless brush.

It has become one of the larger problems in the rug cleaning industry. We charge silk prices for dealing with it, one of the ways to price ourselves out of dealing with the worst examples.
I recently had to deal with this on a water damaged silk rug. It was severely matted so after cleaning, I groomed it by hand with a carding brush. Very tedious. I am thinking that someone needs to invent a steam grooming brush.
 

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No wood pulps in this rug....

That is great news Mr. P

Silk and wool blends are popular for those that can afford it. Yet Viscose and wool blends are everywhere in upscale homes too. May you now have peace of mind.

I do the same thing as Bryan on charging.
 

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Pmf does..
No.bridge.
I don't know what you mean by bridge.
I bought a PMF wand on a recommendation.
The two glides I bought were NOT designed for Rugs.
The hole glide did not have holes all the way across it and created lines in rugs because of uneven air flow.
The other had to be modified because it just dug in and could not be moved.
It looked like they just ran a ball end mill down the middle of it.
 

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We use a standard ZIPPER on rugs. However it sounds less like the tool and more of a grooming issue.

If they are careful get one of theses heads and a nice pole. With a little effort it may minimize any call backs.


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I don't know what you mean by bridge.
I bought a PMF wand on a recommendation.
The two glides I bought were NOT designed for Rugs.
The hole glide did not have holes all the way across it and created lines in rugs because of uneven air flow.
The other had to be modified because it just dug in and could not be moved.
It looked like they just ran a ball end mill down the middle of it.
I think I know what you mean. On those expensive viscose rugs that I clean in home for my customer, I use a 2 inch westpak wand with round slot glides. Less suction and more airflow. Leaves minimum streaks on the carpet that are easily groomed out. Be nice to have a slot glide the full width of the wand.
 

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