PrimaDonna
Megatron
Roofing company that we did work for in the past calls last week. Working on a elementary school. Rain came, roof leaked, badly. The called us after they discovered it last week (no one was in building from Thursday prior to Sunday and it happened anytime between then....)
Went over all the "concerns" with doing this with them on the phone last week. Recommended that the carpet be removed. With direct glue down, it could still be damp underneath. Wished them well. Shared concerns with health issues for the kids and staff if anyone has sensitivities/mold allergies. Could be a huge liability on them if they don't deal with it properly.
They had the "carpet specialist" from the district come out and look at it. Said the carpet was fine and if it was wet underneath, the glue would be failing. He couldn't pull the carpet up anywhere and said it just needs to be cleaned and they want a 'deodorizer" applied. Called us back to do that. He said the smell is almost gone, not as noticeable.....Told him it would intensify when we clean and add moisture to the areas.
Went to the site today and our tech said it still had a strong odor (this is over a week since the loss). They have desks and furniture everywhere. 2nd floor room that isn't accessible and we didn't have enough hose on the truck. Thankfully.....
We told them everything would need to be removed or we will charge contents manipulation. Charging for extra hose....and we can't do it until the week of Aug 14 (I know I said we were slow in a post last week...but that all changed. Booked out the rest of this week and next week, plus guys on vacation, figured they would find someone else with having to wait and school starting).
Sending the estimate anyway...they still want it. This is what we put in the notes....
Client reports previous water loss in area. Carpets have dried and odor from water loss still present. Odor typically indicates some sort of bacteria or mold growth has occurred. Cleaning will not remove the bacteria/mold/odor if it is present. Odor will intensify once we clean since we are re-introducing water to the affected areas. Water marks may not come out of wall panels. If rooms are cleared of all items, we will remove contents manipulation fee.
This is not any type of remediation for pre-existing conditions and is a cleaning of carpet fibers only. No liability assumed by Bxxxx Cxxxx. We will require sign off on these disclosures prior to any services being performed.
Mold testing recommended. Proper remediation by a company that specializes in this is what is recommended to ensure it's removed and there are no future health issues or concerns for people in these areas.
IF they sign off....would you do it anyway? Any chance of us being liable for anything in this situation?
I don't know of any "agencies" to report something like this too to make sure they do the right thing. Should I contact the school district and tell them what we saw/think....then risk the roofing company finding out and loosing a client? No windows in the place...forced air circulation so it's likely not contained to the 3 rooms anymore. I think about my kids and the teachers...and what it would be like if anyone got sick from this....
The roofing company is looking to minimize their costs, but I think they should test and then file insurance claim if remediation needs to be done. However, if the aren't going to do that, then they will hire someone else....so why not get the money for doing the job they are contracting us for?
If we are covered by them signing off....do we do it?
Went over all the "concerns" with doing this with them on the phone last week. Recommended that the carpet be removed. With direct glue down, it could still be damp underneath. Wished them well. Shared concerns with health issues for the kids and staff if anyone has sensitivities/mold allergies. Could be a huge liability on them if they don't deal with it properly.
They had the "carpet specialist" from the district come out and look at it. Said the carpet was fine and if it was wet underneath, the glue would be failing. He couldn't pull the carpet up anywhere and said it just needs to be cleaned and they want a 'deodorizer" applied. Called us back to do that. He said the smell is almost gone, not as noticeable.....Told him it would intensify when we clean and add moisture to the areas.
Went to the site today and our tech said it still had a strong odor (this is over a week since the loss). They have desks and furniture everywhere. 2nd floor room that isn't accessible and we didn't have enough hose on the truck. Thankfully.....
We told them everything would need to be removed or we will charge contents manipulation. Charging for extra hose....and we can't do it until the week of Aug 14 (I know I said we were slow in a post last week...but that all changed. Booked out the rest of this week and next week, plus guys on vacation, figured they would find someone else with having to wait and school starting).
Sending the estimate anyway...they still want it. This is what we put in the notes....
Client reports previous water loss in area. Carpets have dried and odor from water loss still present. Odor typically indicates some sort of bacteria or mold growth has occurred. Cleaning will not remove the bacteria/mold/odor if it is present. Odor will intensify once we clean since we are re-introducing water to the affected areas. Water marks may not come out of wall panels. If rooms are cleared of all items, we will remove contents manipulation fee.
This is not any type of remediation for pre-existing conditions and is a cleaning of carpet fibers only. No liability assumed by Bxxxx Cxxxx. We will require sign off on these disclosures prior to any services being performed.
Mold testing recommended. Proper remediation by a company that specializes in this is what is recommended to ensure it's removed and there are no future health issues or concerns for people in these areas.
IF they sign off....would you do it anyway? Any chance of us being liable for anything in this situation?
I don't know of any "agencies" to report something like this too to make sure they do the right thing. Should I contact the school district and tell them what we saw/think....then risk the roofing company finding out and loosing a client? No windows in the place...forced air circulation so it's likely not contained to the 3 rooms anymore. I think about my kids and the teachers...and what it would be like if anyone got sick from this....
The roofing company is looking to minimize their costs, but I think they should test and then file insurance claim if remediation needs to be done. However, if the aren't going to do that, then they will hire someone else....so why not get the money for doing the job they are contracting us for?
If we are covered by them signing off....do we do it?