A SMALL STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION!!!!!

[truckmount girl]

California leading the way:

http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/swcounty/article_8ad63b71-1028-5412-b478-bd4edff3f7b5.html

Take care,
Lisa

 

[Blue Monarch]

Good stuff. CA still leading the way.

 

[rhyde]

how are they going to pay for it ...?

 

[The Great Oz]

Hmmm, could this possibly be another law written by lawyers to make sure they get a chunk of government cheese?

I see the IDEAL of making sure the little people don't get abused, but even though I don't have any rentals I see the down side to this as well.

Say you're a typical small business landlord and a tenant decides not to pay the rent anymore, which is why most renters get evicted. You can't just throw them out, they have RIGHTS, which is why you have to go to court with a lawyer in the first place. You go through the 90 day LEGAL eviction process, which costs you thousands of dollars while the deadbeat continues to squat in the property.

But wait, now the deadbeat gets a government-paid attorney to drag the process out farther and cost you thousands more.

The unintended consequence is that the financial risk to you becomes just too great to take a chance on anyone that might be near the financial edge. People of little means aren't going to be able to find housing at all, unless in a government subsidized dump or in a huge complex run by corporations that have attorneys on staff.

Also, from the comment in the story about how past programs were only open to citizens, I would infer that this new law is open to illegals as well? Sounds more like California continues to lead the way down the slide to Socialist Hell.


PS: Isn't there a law in California that says the lawyer defending the person without the ability to pay can force the other person to pay both party's attorney's fees? The Washington State law of this type was supposedly modeled after California's. How do I know? My ex-wife's attorney ran up tens of thousands of dollars worth of fees knowing she would force me to pay. Lucky for me that she forgot to cross a T and dot an I and got nothing, but she still cost me thousands of extra dollars for MY attorney's fees.

I feel for those caught by circumstance, but the majority of evictions are deadbeats trying to live off other's efforts. I don't have to care about them at all.

 

[truckmount girl]

While tenant / landlord issues are not my passion, I see the inequity of the Civil justice system as HUGE. The case with HRI wouldn't be where it is right now if an attorney had been appointed when we lost our's. This is a tiny step toward addressing the inequity.

take care,
Lisa

 

[randy]

I'm against it 100%. This is a capitalist country, capitalism built this country. Socialism is destroying it. With respect to California leading the way, sure but leading to where a country that functions like Venezuela ? California has the highest tax rate of any State in the country. What hurts small businesses and families more than confiscating their earnings to pay for social programs for those that make bad choices, and are constant victims of capitalistic evils ? Having seen what legal aid has done to this country already, I can't imagine a tax payer supported "legal defense fund." Legal fees are part of the cost of doing business for any enterprise. In the HR v. glides matter who is going to pay their legal fees once and if their patent is upheld ? Should we the tax payers be forced to pick up that tab also ? Once you start down the socialistic path all you gets is failure. Case in point: Social security, medicare, Medicaid are all essentially bankrupt. There will not be the funds available to pay the promised benefits. We can't afford anymore socialism in this country until we figure out how to pay for the bullshit Franklin Roosevelt came up with.

 

[joe harper]

I'm against it 100%. This is a capitalist country, capitalism built this country. Socialism is destroying it. With respect to California leading the way, sure but leading to where a country that functions like Venezuela ? California has the highest tax rate of any State in the country. What hurts small businesses and families more than confiscating their earnings to pay for social programs for those that make bad choices, and are constant victims of capitalistic evils ? Having seen what legal aid has done to this country already, I can't imagine a tax payer supported "legal defense fund." Legal fees are part of the cost of doing business for any enterprise. In the HR v. glides matter who is going to pay their legal fees once and if their patent is upheld ? Should we the tax payers be forced to pick up that tab also ? Once you start down the socialistic path all you gets is failure. Case in point: Social security, medicare, Medicaid are all essentially bankrupt. There will not be the funds available to pay the promised benefits. We can't afford anymore socialism in this country until we figure out how to pay for the bullshit Franklin Roosevelt came up with.

AMEN RANDY...........

There are ONLY 2 rules in business......!!!!!!!

#1. Give what they will TAKE....to get IN... :!:
#2. And TAKE what they will GIVE...to get OUT... :!:

Your DECISONS...in between those to POINTS....Will determine your Success or Failure.. :wink:

CHOOSE YOUR BATTLES WISELY..... :idea:

 

[Mike Draper]

California is leading the way, in debt, corruption, crime, highest taxes and last but not least, the first to make a budget and put it in the red within 6 weeks. Bankruptcy next............................very soon I'm afraid. And BTW, Arnold is no conservative. I would dare call him a democrat at best.

 

[truckmount girl]

Ummm...we already have representation for CRIMINAL cases...Unless you want to see our entire commerce system handed over to huge corporations you better hope they do something to even up the CIVIL justice system.

The GreenGlides case is just one small example. I talk about just this topic in this video:

z]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9TKcAAlLxoz]

Take care,
Lisa

 

[Mike Draper]

I'd prefer huge corporations over huge government.

 

[truckmount girl]

So....what about the CRIMINAL Justice System?

Why should you have representation if you steal a six pack and not when you get sued by Chem-Dry? How many independent grocery stores, banks, drug stores, clothing stores, etc. are left? What makes you think that's not happening in our industry right now?

Take care,
Lisa

 

[The Great Oz]

Lisa, I understand your personal desire to have had some free legal service, but do you really think you would have been well served?

There are probably some fanatics in the PD's office, but most are there to learn. If they're any good they will quickly go into private practice or into politics, leaving the less competent behind.

The public defender system keeps the less astute from being bum-rushed into prison, but is geared more toward cutting deals than honestly defending an innocent client.


PS: I've advised a couple of people that were innocent of legal charges to hire an attorney, but they were so confident that any right-minded person would see their innocence that they went with the free public defender. One got to spend 30 days in jail, one got to spend thousands of dollars and eighteen months in a court-ordered anger management program. In both cases a private attorney would have cost them less, and the cases would have very likely been dismissed without trial. The one that went to jail later hired an attorney that got the conviction overturned, but he doesn't get his thirty days back.

 

[truckmount girl]

You are absolutely correct that a court-appointed representative is not necessarily a competent representative who will go the distance for you.

HOWEVER it is better than nothing.

I'd rather submit myself to a lousy surgeon than have to try to perform open heart surgery on myself. The former is risky, the latter is lethal.

Take care,
Lisa

 

[Greenie]

Actually, we wouldn't need either extreme if a Judge had some common sense and could just apply some of it towards Obvious Frivolous suits. And while you are at it, fine the appropriate counsel for initiating said suit.

Same for frivolous medical malpractice.

There are a huge percentage of frivolous suits that just need to be slapped down before they clog up the system, and make citizen numb to the concept that there might actually be justice avail.?