Everest 650 or Sapphire 870

[Nate The Great]

@mwall2230 and his dad got the 870's, then switched to the Everest 650hp...

I'm curious on the feedback as well... With @SamIam getting a pro1200 and @hogjowl getting another cleanco, something tells me to look into a DD more..

But I want a true dual wander...

 

[Lee Stockwell]

The pro-2000 has separate blowers and waste tanks, definitely dual wand capable.

 

[dealtimeman]

Lee where is that unit available to buy new as I haven't seen any sales literature on it.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

It's in my driveway.

Give Bawb Vawter a couple weeks with it

 

[EDS]

@mwall2230 and his dad got the 870's, then switched to the Everest 650hp...

I'm curious on the feedback as well... With @SamIam getting a pro1200 and @hogjowl getting another cleanco, something tells me to look into a DD more..

But I want a true dual wander...

Aero???

 

[Nate The Great]

It's in my driveway.

Give Bawb Vawter a couple weeks with it

How bout some pictures of the unit? I always here you talking about it, but never seen one...

 

[Lee Stockwell]

RATOVAC shows one on their website...

 

[Nate The Great]

Aero???

@Cleantechsk went from an aero tech to a everest 650hp... Something tells me others who have went from the big trucks to smaller trucks know something I dont...

There's only 1 company here who got a 1999 vortex, which is supposedly broken more than it runs..

 

[Nomad74]

Well after going to the encap talk at MF that was put on by Excellent Supply, I now know you guys with Aero's are full of crap. I now know I can get the same results with Releaseit and a CRB.Anyone want to buy my SS870 and my Amtex Dragon 30/47?

 

[SamIam]

I really wanted a 650 or 870, but I don't want to clean.

That's why I went for an amazing single wand unit that hopefully will make less excuses for jobs not getting done.

I really don't have alot of problem, but now and then not having onboard water hurts.

I also want a simpler unit for my guys.

The 405 I'm getting rid of has 6700 hours on it and I got it with 650 hours.

It runs great, but that machine is probably 15-16 years old.

I got it in 2011 and it was beast.

 

[JS41035]

I really wanted a 650 or 870, but I don't want to clean.

That's why I went for an amazing single wand unit that hopefully will make less excuses for jobs not getting done.

I really don't have alot of problem, but now and then not having onboard water hurts.

I also want a simpler unit for my guys.

The 405 I'm getting rid of has 6700 hours on it and I got it with 650 hours.

It runs great, but that machine is probably 15-16 years old.

I got it in 2011 and it was beast.
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That's beautiful

 

[JS41035]

So I use the 870 for hard surface a ton. IF you do a high percentage of hard surface cleaning ,you will love the extra psi of hot water. But if you do primary residential T&G, 1000 is all you ever need. I only use the higher psi (above 1500) on nasty kitchen tile and sidewalks.
With employees it's kinda scary that with a couple of cranks on the regulator they could be blasting grout out with ease at 2500 psi.
I don't think the 870 is a replacement for even the smaller of the fuel fired pressure washing units. Honestly when ived cleaned sidewalks or other pressure washing jobs I make really lame money. But when it comes to those absolutely destroyed kitchen tile jobs. It is amazing. IF you charge enough.

 

[todg]

El Diablo did this for me...Not as Black as above video...I turn down restaurants because it grimes up my machine...

 

[Cleanworks]

I really wanted a 650 or 870, but I don't want to clean.

That's why I went for an amazing single wand unit that hopefully will make less excuses for jobs not getting done.

I really don't have alot of problem, but now and then not having onboard water hurts.

I also want a simpler unit for my guys.

The 405 I'm getting rid of has 6700 hours on it and I got it with 650 hours.

It runs great, but that machine is probably 15-16 years old.

I got it in 2011 and it was beast.
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The simplest units are always the direct drives. I don't know about dual wanding with a Butler or Cleanco compared to an 870 but with the enhanced heat and blower packages available now, I believe the new direct drives are the cream of the crop. The advantage of slide in was always the portability, being able to install in an older van or trailer. I have had nothing but good experiences with my Hydramaster Cds units and having used Cleanco's for years, I can attest to their reliability. Especially if you have onboard water. You pull up in front of the job, pull your hoses in, flip 2 switches and presto, you are cleaning. Only 1 engine to look after.

 

[jwfoulk12]

Not sure if this is insider information or not... so will say I was told that after this year SS will no longer be using steel on any of their frames etc. Aluminum like the 370. Guess they listened to me hitting them on the rust issue. was a legit issue...so good for them!

So nothing until 2018 as far as aluminum frames go?

 

[jwfoulk12]

@mwall2230 and his dad got the 870's, then switched to the Everest 650hp...

I'm curious on the feedback as well... With @SamIam getting a pro1200 and @hogjowl getting another cleanco, something tells me to look into a DD more..

But I want a true dual wander...

I tried to get in touch with Mike Wallace about his thoughts but havent heard anything. I'm really torn between these two units.

 

[jwfoulk12]

View attachment 70272 So I use the 870 for hard surface a ton. IF you do a high percentage of hard surface cleaning ,you will love the extra psi of hot water. But if you do primary residential T&G, 1000 is all you ever need. I only use the higher psi (above 1500) on nasty kitchen tile and sidewalks.
With employees it's kinda scary that with a couple of cranks on the regulator they could be blasting grout out with ease at 2500 psi.
I don't think the 870 is a replacement for even the smaller of the fuel fired pressure washing units. Honestly when ived cleaned sidewalks or other pressure washing jobs I make really lame money. But when it comes to those absolutely destroyed kitchen tile jobs. It is amazing. IF you charge enough.

I'd love to pick your brain a bit about your experience with the 870 if you ever have a free moment.

 

[dealtimeman]

What I heard from a really good source is that: Prochem will for the mean time keep building their units separate from sapphires and it will be a "soft" transition to moving all manufacturing to Arizona as prochems are built now in Colorado.

 

[Nate The Great]

I'd love to pick your brain a bit about your experience with the 870 if you ever have a free moment.

@Justin Stockwell used to bleed prochem... Till he scored that hell of a deal on the SS870 and box van..

I'm still Jealous!

 

[JS41035]

I'd love to pick your brain a bit about your experience with the 870 if you ever have a free moment.

270 293 2353. Like a fatter more Irish Saiger.

 

[BIG WOOD]

I tried to get in touch with Mike Wallace about his thoughts but havent heard anything. I'm really torn between these two units.

Have you ever considered steam action's beast?

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Have you ever considered steam action's beast?

No two alike

 

[Nomad74]

Have you ever considered steam action's beast?

In a trailer?

 

[BIG WOOD]

In a trailer?

Yes

No two alike

Have you heard Any negative reviews in the past?

 

[hogjowl]

We hear nothing.

Crickets...

 

[jwfoulk12]

Yes

Have you heard Any negative reviews in the past?

I have family that purchased a big steam action years ago. I was a 4 wand unit. Ive used it once or twice but they have had so many heating issues with it that it kind of soured me on steam action.

 

[jwfoulk12]

270 293 2353. Like a fatter more Irish Saiger.

I'll try to give you a call later this afternoon or this evening. Thanks

 

[BIG WOOD]

I have family that purchased a big steam action years ago. I was a 4 wand unit. Ive used it once or twice but they have had so many heating issues with it that it kind of soured me on steam action.

You're the first person who's made any negative feedback to me on those. How was the customer service when those problems kept happening?

 

[Desk Jockey]

I've never heard of one that didn't have overheating issues. I saw them both at my distributors. He just shook his head. He said support is pathetic and each one was made by what sounds like sub labor. Nobody knows anything and the guy says he has never heard about over heating issues.

He said the units were old and they owners should think about buying the new model.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

You're the first person who's made any negative feedback to me on those. How was the customer service when those problems kept happening?

I've heard more negative than positive from actual owners.

John Sales is a very interesting personality from the generation that pioneered truckmounts.