From 7...to 2!

Discussion in 'the Bird Room' started by Mark Saiger, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. Mark Saiger
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    GM truck issue only.

    Nothing Butler related.

    Calls again to GM and I am hearing conflicting information.

    Local dealer is telling GM all kinds of things they are doing and totally blowing smoke at GM... They are not doing what they are saying and I let my GM rep know this today.

    Local shop was supposed to call me again today and no return call.

    I told them I am trying to coordinate my schedule. Also told them payment 6 going in this week for a truck that hasn't made any money!

    Also told them one more week and I am going to be gone for weeks. I need this resolved!

    Going to order another Butler possibly and dump this one on someones lap.

    This is an unusual situation I am told.... and I have never had a problem like this.

    So damn frustrating!
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  2. jcooper
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    Wooo-hoooo! Kick butt, Steve!
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  3. Russ T.
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    You’d think GM could figure this thing out. This model of van hasn’t changed since what, like ‘06?

    It’s making that mini box Butler I saw in AZ look more and more attractive!
  4. steve_64
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    Sounds like a dealer I know here. We had to stop taking our vehicles to them. They never fixed things right. Always had excuses that didn't make sense.
  5. bob vawter
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    Doesn' Butler have a dog in this fight. ...dealerships USED to blame it on the TM....
  6. Mark Saiger
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    They tried that move for about 2 seconds with me and I was very happy telling them....NO!

    My local dealership is telling GM one thing, and me another....

    The GM rep on the phone told me what "My local dealer says they have done" including a engineer is being considered to get up here....then my dealer it telling me one is not available.

    Or yesterday, called the dealership as I am trying to coordinate next weeks schedule around making this unit available for them (so they don't just put it outside to freeze), and try to get to Minneapolis to look at a Ronald McDonald house....

    At noon yesterday, dealer tells me they missed their region reps call....and will call me right back...it is now 6:30 am the next morning in MN and no call took place back to me....Fooking Steaming mad right now!:madder:

    Calling Lease company today again....Dealership, GM....Butler....

    :madder::madder::madder::madder::madder:
  7. Mark Saiger
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    Also, my little orange jeep I bought to make things easier for me....well that is being traded off today for a Dodge Durango Family Truckster so wife can cart around grand kids.

    One more grandkid and we will need a bus!

    So much for any budget or plans.....living loose and going with a flowing river.....

    So that still will make only 2 vehicles not needing repair though....
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    Hey buddy. Sorry about your problems.

    But it IS good to see you’re human.

    Go take a happy pill.
  9. Nomad74
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    Damn Mark. Sorry you gotta deal with all that static. On the bright side, I don't feel bad anymore for not having a second family car. We only have my wife's car and then my two vans. I hate taking the Promaster to the store for a gallon of milk. But now it doesn't seem so bad. I'm missing my motorcycle, but that thing was my own version of Christine.

    I've got my eye on a 1968 f-100 thats parked down the road. Old, Simple, no smog.
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    Wait....did you buy the unit all together from Butler. ....orrrrr buy the truck and had the machine put in...
    Last question. ...do they even know who the fook they're dealing wit here...?
  11. KevinD
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    By now you should be in or near Lemon Law Status.
    4 attempts at the same repair or 30 consecutive days out of service (may vary by state).
    Seriously, look into it.

    No need for you to take the hit.
  12. Chris A
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    2003 with same platform, I think they switched to the 6 speed transmission in 2010-11
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    The only way you can guarantee that you'll get a heavy-duty transmission is to order a 6 liter engine. If you don't have a an HD transmission, you can both install an auxiliary cooler or have a shop install a shift kit. It will bang into the next gear, but that stops the sliding between gears that overheats and burns up the tranny.

    At minus ten, I doubt overheating is Mark's problem though.
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    Not sure how the new transmissions operate but I remember working for a guy with a brand new 1988 ford with electronic overdrive. Went through 6 trannys in the first year. One of the problems was at between 35-45mph the tranny couldn't make up its mind which gear it should be in and would keep shifting up and down until it would break something. The solution finally, was to lock it out unless you were on the highway.
  15. Mark Saiger
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    Bought full package deal.

    Moving up the complaint chain.

    Once one of the big dogs gets back from ski trip in Utah Monday my case on his desk.

    And longer I have to wait... The old Bad Ass pissed off band director Mark comes out.

    Anyone who has called me I have pretty much smoked them past couple days.

    Kind and Fooking cuddly gone right now!
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  16. Mark Saiger
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    No lemon law on commercial vehicles... Go figure ... How convenient!
  17. Mark Saiger
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    I think it is the crankshaft in the motor...

    Taking out the torque converter and pump.

    Bunch of putz here locally at dealership.

    Going to pull the damn thing myself soon and send the bill.

    Or just buy new on Monday and start over with the "New Christine"!
  18. Mark Saiger
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    And now got 2015 fixed and traded off new Jeep for Dodge Durango family truckster and still have nothing to drive this weekend myself.... Fook me!
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    Apple is up almost $2 today to an all time high :stir:
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