Zee
Supportive Member
Because they are attempting to get the Transit to be built with the setup, which they can't hook the same "pto" as the old style vans.
Hydramaster goes Electric
- Thread starter Mikey P
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Because they are attempting to get the Transit to be built with the setup, which they can't hook the same "pto" as the old style vans.
Ok, that makes more sense. I thought that it was going to be powered by electricity instead of gas. That's what made me confused. I wonder what the generator head is used for?
dgardner
Moderator
The xDrive is electric. The van's engine turns the generator, making electricity. The electricity is used to run the electric motor in the xDrive.
The whole point is to be able to use a CDS-type TM in a chassis where you can't install the usual clutch and driveshaft, either because it won't fit or because the manufacturer won't let you. It's just another means to get the power from the van's engine to the TM.
The whole point is to be able to use a CDS-type TM in a chassis where you can't install the usual clutch and driveshaft, either because it won't fit or because the manufacturer won't let you. It's just another means to get the power from the van's engine to the TM.
Steve Lawrence
Member
The whole idea sounds stupid to me.
Zee
Supportive Member
Well, something must be a little problematic with it....there were two "fests" already, where they were supposed to show-introduce.
I'm rooting for them to eventually figure it out.
I'm rooting for them to eventually figure it out.
Cleanworks
Moderator
some of the problems would be heat in the generator and heat in the electric motor. That generator has to provide aprox 15-20 hp equivalent to power the system like a shaft drive would.
dgardner
Moderator
Problematic may or may not be the best word. This design breaks a lot of new ground, and I would expect many iterations to get it right. I applaud Hydramaster for taking the time to get it right, rather than making customers into beta testers...
Bob Pruitt
Member
With the 500 cfm blower, big general pump and 2 heat exchanges plus 3 year warranty going into the Ford Transit... this looks to be my next Truck Mount! Hope you guys going to Vegas take lots of pictures and video! Looking forward to Mikeys Board Interview on this machine!
Cleanworks
Moderator
Hopefully they offer the salsa heat system on this unit.
Bob Savage
Member
I would purchase a van that would accommodate a regular direct drive unit, but when you are purchasing the direct drive you almost always have to use a new van.
SO, this is a new twist. I'm interested in following it's emergence.
I can remember the first ETM's I built many years ago, where I used an on-board generator for power, getting it's fuel to run from the van's gas tank fuel tap system.
However, I then got so much crap from so many people that if you use a gasoline powered generator to run the machine, why don't you just get a gasoline slide-in.
So I proceeded to design the ETM so it would only require two 15 amps circuits, and would still cover 200' from the van when cleaning. I still have the genset, but rarely use it, and, the ETM is still kicking butt and taking names.
Does that mean that if my name were Bob Rockefeller or some really well known name you would have taken the time to see it perform with an open mind?
Carry On...
Steve Lawrence
Member
Just seems that using gas power to create electric power is not only wasteful of energy but you're reducing your power abilities with the exchange, not to mention the mountain of other mechanical parts to go wrong with all of this mumbo jumbo gas to electric goofiness..
I think I'll just retire and let the kids figure this one out.
Cleanworks
Moderator
Who the hell is Bob Rockefeller?
Mark Saiger
Mr Happy!
Are they still using aluminum waste tanks?
Bob Pruitt
Member
Saiger" data-source="post: 4455690" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch">Yes. Recovery tank, aluminum powder coated.
Bob Savage
Member
Nelson's grandson.
Cleanworks
Moderator
I know what you mean Bob, you created an interesting machine but without the funds to mass market it, it is more of a niche product. I like your propane heaters. Seems just as hot as the steamway 220,000 btu kero heaters
Bob Savage
Member
Amen.
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Cleanworks
Moderator
I'm kinda in the same boat. I have some great ideas for powerful portables, have even built my own but lack the funds to put them into production.
SamIam
Member
Call Rob Banks! He'll fund you.
Bob Pruitt
Member
A little more...
hogjowl
Idiot™
I like the idea of that unit!
It's a real shame they ended the video with two outdated tools.
It's a real shame they ended the video with two outdated tools.
If you had been in the video it would have been 3 outdated tools....
hogjowl
Idiot™
Hurtful
hogjowl
Idiot™
Hilarious.
Right up there with Coasties lame jokes.
Right up there with Coasties lame jokes.
Cleanworks
Moderator
I hate when they tell you the temperature is amazing but don't tell you what I iis.
Bob Pruitt
Member
The video show the temp. gauge at just over 200... then it cuts to the RX20. Thats all I know...
The Great Oz
Member
It gets hotter.
