I need a refresher course in food/drink dye removal..

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By Mikey P on Nov 6, 2016 at 7:16 AM
  1. Mikey P
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    In Santa Cruz we may go through one or two quarts of a one part 'red dye" remover a year. Dye stains are so rare that "Sorry Mam, it's permanent" works fine.

    Now over here in NV, although the bulk of my work is for retired folks who don't drink KoolAid or eat Otter Pops, I'm attracting a certain element from my Facebook campaigns and if this military Housing contract goes through, I'm going to need to brush up on my synthetic dye removal techniques.

    • Do the one part products work if, like peroxide on organics, you apply upon arrival and let dwell?
    • Or is dry steam/heat almost always needed?
    • Are wall paper steamers still the way to go or has something newer and easier now available?
    • Are the new Poly's any easier to remove stains from?
    • Is covering the stain with plastic and letting dwell a safer alternative with the One Parts?
    • If so, will a return visit be needed to rinse the solution away.
    • When you turn a red stain yellow in the removal process, whats better to rinse with, acid or alkaline?
    What other tips do you have?





    This job yesterday was the most extreme food dye job I've seen in 30 years. I'm sure many of you have seen worse, but I've never been an apartment hack per say..

    Just after pre vacuuming..

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    Half way through

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    Finished

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    Found on the side of the house/rental. Maybe I should go back and grab a few yards for testing..

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    1. steve_64
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      Better off using the crb and boosting the prespray.

      I still like stain magic where I see color left. Spray and leave it.

      If you used prozyme plus and scrubbed that carpet in the picture after it was cleaned all those spots left would ball up and be left on the surface for easy removal.

      Do it before make sure you clean your filter because even after vaccing you will get so much soil it will plug it up halfway through.
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      Yeah Right! I don't think you need a refresher from us... the results of that POS carpet look awesome.
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      Better off using the crb and boosting the prespray. Better off than using a 36oi Brush Head, you're on drugs..

      I still like stain magic where I see color left. Spray and leave it. Stain Magic on Synthetic dye?, you're on drugs..

      If you used prozyme plus and scrubbed that carpet in the picture after it was cleaned all those spots left would ball up and be left on the surface for easy removal. Ball up? what? You're on drugs..

      Do it before make sure you clean your filter because even after vaccing you will get so much soil it will plug it up halfway through. Dry soil was not the issue here...good lord you sure get the good dope there Steve.
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      Haha fly me out I'll show ya.
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      I already know how to use a bong.:icon_cool:
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      You probably use water instead of ice..
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      Cobbs dye stain remover is great.

      I liked red 1 but they changed the formula and it can pull the color right out of the carpet.

      Also a steamer is great.
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      ya crb wand combo is great, but pig pounded carpets need the 360i brush head.
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      When do you apply the Cobbs?
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      I guarantee that upper left corner would look better with the crb. Those shadows are oils and solids I believe. I see it all the time. They come out in a coagulated ball full of fiber sand and goop.
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      I'm discussed that people actually live like that. I'd have told them to pull it.

      You did an amazing job! Its looks like a different carpet.
      Now if you can just Marty and his family to move out, it will stay clean.
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      I have never liked the 1 part red dye removers and using them with steamers can be tricky. It is easy to remove color from the carpet itself. I would rather pre treat with a peroxide product and post treat with a stain magic/vanish/eliminate 2 part product. When these products don't work, you can try a reducer like Larry's product always keeping in mind, apply, let dwell, rinse.
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      Folks, have your teenagers read this.

      That will deter them.
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      It doesn't bother me at all. I charge a lot extra for that.
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      Ask Larry!

      It depends on condition of carpet usually I'll clean them spray it on and use a steamer.

      Any product that says you can spray it down then steam it off with a wand usually doesn't work.

      You have to reapply and use a steamer.

      Those products may work with a diesel fired heater or on a stain resist carpet.
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      I've used Larry's product and it works without heat. Just apply it while vacuuming. The smell is pretty strong, so I reverted back to a one part dye remover and steam.
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      I say treat it before and let dwell then clean the entire carpet and if any stain remains use your steam iron and reapply the one part red remover.
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      Mike we are in the same boat, maybe go through 1 or 2 quarts of Red 1 (Pro'sChoice) a year. I've found that for us those synthetic dye stains will not come out with just product alone, you must use steam or an iron/damp rag combo. I beleive Cobb's sells a nice iron shaped steamer, may look on Amazon, I'm pretty sure @Mark Saiger has a nice little steamer. Then there's always an iron and damp rag that work as well and it's cheap.

      We used to use the 2 part Red Relief (Pro'sChoice), switched to Red 1 2 years ago and I can't tell the difference in effectiveness.

      Link to Cobbs steamer http://www.cobbcarpet.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=69&products_id=5025
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