is it TOO good to be true ??

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Mytee EMT Escape


Vacuum: 4-3 Stage vacuums
CFM: 325
Lift: 230" H20 or 16 1/2" Hg
Pump: Rated 1,000 PSI / 2.2 GPM Triplex piston


all that on two 110vt cords
and how does four, 3-stage vacs, pump and pump-out run on only 2 cords?


last question ... if a portymount REALLY gave performance of a #4 blower'd GAS TM ..
On just two cords..
at TWO THIRDS the price of a gas TM ...
, why doesn't everyone run one ..or another lectrobox?


.l.T.A.
 

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danielc said:
I believe there are more than two cords Larry if you want four vacuum motors.


thanks Dan'l
How much juice does it take to power the beast??


here's what's included for a MSRP of $4,499.00 (Plus S/H)

3 Prong 30 amp dryer adaptor cord
4 Prong 30 amp dryer adaptor cord
Two single 230 volt to dual 115 volt power cord adaptors
Two 50' 12/3 twist lock power cords


I'm confuzed on how you power it and what/how many cords are needed?


..l.T.A.
 

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The unit has a single 50' power cord that can be (1) attached to a dryer outlet (2) generator (3) the Escape comes with a power box that can automatically connect to 120 volts dual circuit and convert it to 230 volts to power the unit.
 
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Royal Man said:
The unit has a single 50' power cord that can be (1) attached to a dryer outlet (2) generator (3) the Escape comes with a power box that can automatically connect to 120 volts dual circuit and convert it to 230 volts to power the unit.

Yes and that is for the one with dual three stage vacs.

Were not talking about the porty with no wheels.
 

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danielc said:
Royal Man said:
The unit has a single 50' power cord that can be (1) attached to a dryer outlet (2) generator (3) the Escape comes with a power box that can automatically connect to 120 volts dual circuit and convert it to 230 volts to power the unit.

Yes and that is for the one with dual three stage vacs.

Were not talking about the porty with no wheels.

The 4 vac was running off an inverter powered off the van's engine.

I think about 7K or more.

I don't see the sence of running the van's engine to go electric.

A few cords cost $25 bucks each.
 

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danielc said:
Were not talking about the porty with no wheels.

are you sure??

I'm looking at the $4500 Escape
and that's where I quoted all the info from

http://www.mytee.com/products/product.php?id=ETM



Not the MF prototype megamount that needs a $5000 inverter shoehorned somehow into the van's engine compartment ....so you can runthe V-8 engine that spins the inverter to power lectrovacs :lol:
(sorry John, I know you're proud, and rightly so..it might be great for the ego, but dumb as hell from a practical buyer standpoint)


so...is the Escape 110 or 220?


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I believe it is 220. But you can convert it to 2 110.

I personally would prefer 2 110s.

That is what my electric is.(Not a Mytee)

Moving a stove to get to the 220 would suck and might scratch the floor.

Having to go all the way to a dryer outlet in a basement would suck.


For mine the cords are on 2 reels and the cords and solution line can be ran in at the same time.

One cord in the garage or by the front door. The other cord in the kitchen.

Easy!

And then rolled in quickly onto the reels when done.
 

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Take it from someone who has been there done that for 9 + years.

Its not all whats its cracked up to be.
 

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Larry;

A single 230 VAC 30 amp cord will operate the Quad vacs + pump system.

(30 X 230 = 6900 watts)

This is equivalent to Four standard 115 VAC 15amp circuits.

We have a customer doing the same thing with one of our custom-built systems.

Larry
 

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You know damn well It’s too good to be true. Just like Mytee’s Lifetime Warrantee That only covers the plastic molding.
 
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Royal Man said:
I believe it is 220. But you can convert it to 2 110.

I personally would prefer 2 110s.

That is what my electric is.(Not a Mytee)

Moving a stove to get to the 220 would suck and might scratch the floor.

Having to go all the way to a dryer outlet in a basement would suck.


For mine the cords are on 2 reels and the cords and solution line can be ran in at the same time.

One cord in the garage or by the front door. The other cord in the kitchen.

Easy!

And then rolled in quickly onto the reels when done.
Problem with using 2 110 outlets on the Mytee ETM is that you can only use 2 vacs not 4

According to Mytee, their ETM can run all 4 vacs and pump off 1 230 outlet

Totally agree that pulling out a dryer to get juice is PITA and in some cases impractical

I think most will find they are going the 2 20 amp cord route with lower vacuum or runnin off the van

Don't forget your gonna need a propane heater too
 

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I wouldn't want to move the dryer or stove out, too much risk on vinyl or hardwood, but on a lot of homes you can reach it without moving it.

However in older homes here the 220 is in the basement, just adding to setup time and more hassle with longer cords.

It would be ideal in some commercial setting where 220 is available. It has lots of potential it's going to be more hassle than gas but you will at least save on fuel to help make up for the hassle.

We had electric TM's and I too prefer gas but when gas becomes unreasonable to fuel a TM I think will all be thankful that Terry and John reintroduced the electic TM.
 

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I know it's gonna be awhile (a LONG while) before we have actual users with real feedback on these things.

Why did Vincent hit and run? Answer our questions.
 

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Cords are a hassle at that gauge, you get tired of stringing them out. Breakers can be a nuisance if you run a powerhead or 175.

Ever blow a breaker when someone hasn't saved their work on their PC? Yea, they aren't calling you back next year.

Powercord spaghetti trip hazzard.....doesn't look very professional. Might even generate a few questions as to "How much electricty does your machine use?"

Vacant homes with no juice, you'll need a generator. Oh and nothing like a little jolt in the rain to get your day going.

I'm sure I'm missing some but those are the one's still etched into my memory.
 

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Larry Cobb said:
Larry;

A single 230 VAC 30 amp cord will operate the Quad vacs + pump system.

(30 X 230 = 6900 watts)

This is equivalent to Four standard 115 VAC 15amp circuits.

We have a customer doing the same thing with one of our custom-built systems.

Larry

very good
That's the info I was looking for
Thanks Larry!
(thanks for the 750 hour life expectancy on vac motors too)

so here's what I'm thinking now..
imHo, it's not practical to ask Mrs Phiff to move her dirty laundry so you can get to the dryer plug
(that often requires moving the dryer to get to the plug ) no thanks .
So to get "real" TM performance you have two options ..
Find 4 separate 110vt outlets in the house (not impossible) but you now have four cords strung throughout the home)..and you better know where the breaker box is too

or

you run two cords and use it in porty mode ....and deal with it

or

you spend $1000+ on a 7200wt generator (you won't find a 7200wt gen worth a crap for much less)
and all the virtues of lectromounts .....clean, quiet, no fuel (other than propane burner) go right out the window .
cause now you're running a 12-14hp gas engine inside the van , with all the accompanying noise , stink and gas use that go with it..not to mention the lose of valuable van floor space


let each man decide for himself


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Marty said:
I know it's gonna be awhile (a LONG while) before we have actual users with real feedback on these things.

Why did Vincent hit and run? Answer our questions.


I ran the pimped bane, remember???

Started out using outlets at the customer's house. This became a REAL problem in the summer, not enough breakers and too many things from the house running on the too few breakers. Get the point?

So I'm left with 3 cords, one for the water pump, and 2 for the vac motors. To draw less amperage, I converted the 12 gauge cords to 10 gauge (more cost) and really didn't lower the amperage that much. Breakers still trippin.

In comes the generator, problem here, I couldn't find one big enough to run all 3 cords that I could afford or make cost efficient. So I went with a 5500 watt genny, lasted 18 months. Then to a 13000 watt genny, lasted 2 yrs. Bought the last genny 6 months before I sold the entire unit in Sept. 12.

In theory, electric is great, but still doesn't deliver the power as a gas motor driven blower and water pump provide.

On other note, those thinking of buying a electric TM, bane is the way to go. Just buy the tanks and electric reel setup used and add your own water and vac system. The tanks and reel systems are rock solid and will last a lifetime.

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Trying to replicate a gasoline TM in an electric version, just doesn't prove to be practical.

It takes too many cords, or a gynormus generator, and neither one of those options are very productive.

Build an electric that doesn't have to emulate, and then get carpet cleaners to accept it, because it really does work.

It's the most uphill battle ever to enter the CC arena!
 

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Bob Savage said:
Build an electric that doesn't have to emulate, and then get carpet cleaners to accept it, because it really does work

I don't think anyone is suggesting it doesn't .
There's more than a few hi-performance portys on the market.

speaking of... why not buy a hi-performance portable and stand alone vac booster?? :idea:
With pump-outs , auto fills and boosters available now-a-days , a sharp operator could customize a set up .
Make everything in the van quick disco.
Not just the plumbing to heater and fresh water tank, but also brackets and/or straps/tie-downs to secure a stand alone big balls porty ..like an M5, or Truckforce ,or Terry's customs .
leave it in the van as a portymount and deploy vac booster in van or down stream closer to the wand (and possible additional power source)
or easily remove it for hi-rise and lock-ins

It's the most uphill battle ever to enter the CC arena!

cause the claims don't hold water Bob.
Two cords is a portymount and lacking when compared to a gas TM
If it weren't so, you wouldn't have mega hours on that over driven 45 blower gas TM



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I hear ya Larry.

Larry said:
If it weren't so, you wouldn't have mega hours on that over driven 45 blower gas TM
The reason we use that so much is that we dual wand about every job.

The electric can dual wand, but it takes too many cords (4), and just isn't as productive as the gas mount when dual wanding, considering you would have 4-5 setups (jobs), and tear-downs, every day.
 

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Doubting Thomas said:
You dual wand with a 45?

Two wands at 100 psi each?
Yes we do - every day.

A total of 12 flow with 2 wands without a hitch.

Plenty of heat (LP), pressure set at 450 PSI (which drops to 400 when both wands are keyed), and screaming vacuum to each wand at 125' each (250' total).
 

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Ok then, but please don't get your feelings hurt when I say that's ANOTHER bulletin board disconnect between whats reported as possible and what reality seems to suggest.

I'd love to actually see that.

Is there a reason, you think, why your results are different than what other people, and suppliers, report is possible?

Something you may not be telling us?
 

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