158,000 sf cgd HHUuuuuuugggee building 2 set of stairs. cubicles, offices etc . They want done once per quarter. HWE not encap so don't ask. That's what they and we want. THey want done on weekends and nights what would you bid??????
Need help on bid and its a biggie
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Desk Jockey
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First they are idiots! But sell them what they want.
I'd bid .09 sq/ft, thats probably very high but to HWE is going to be a chore. If you win the bid you better make some money for the effort.
HWE with a Zipper you should be able to average 1,500 sq/ft an hour. Thats you making $135.42 an hour.
185,000 sq/ft at 1,500 sq/ft is going to take 105 hours to clean.
I'd use 5 tm's. I'd start Friday at 5:00 pm work till 10:00 pm.
Then Saturday 9:00am-7:00 pm Sunday 8:00am -1:00 pm
Discount only after you complete the future cleanings. First cleaning is no discount as it is corrective cleaning. The future cleanings are maintenance so you can slightly discount.
This one of those jobs you'll wish you didn't win. HWE that square footage is a bitch. Been there done it and it was no picnic.
I'd bid .09 sq/ft, thats probably very high but to HWE is going to be a chore. If you win the bid you better make some money for the effort.
HWE with a Zipper you should be able to average 1,500 sq/ft an hour. Thats you making $135.42 an hour.
185,000 sq/ft at 1,500 sq/ft is going to take 105 hours to clean.
I'd use 5 tm's. I'd start Friday at 5:00 pm work till 10:00 pm.
Then Saturday 9:00am-7:00 pm Sunday 8:00am -1:00 pm
Discount only after you complete the future cleanings. First cleaning is no discount as it is corrective cleaning. The future cleanings are maintenance so you can slightly discount.
This one of those jobs you'll wish you didn't win. HWE that square footage is a bitch. Been there done it and it was no picnic.
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
I'd set up my TM.
I'd also slap a big "HWE" sticker on the black Cimex and run both until the job is done.
I'd also slap a big "HWE" sticker on the black Cimex and run both until the job is done.
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
The only callbacks will be on the tm areas.
Desk Jockey
Member
lol
Bob Pruitt
Member
Once in awhile I get blown away by the expertise that lives on this board...
Old Coastie
Supportive Member
Hire an elf, buy him a Rotovac Ranger and let him work the zones in rotation every night or weekend. Pay him $24,000/year salary, pocket the other $42,600.
Repeat until Chavez rich.
Repeat until Chavez rich.
How many truck mounts and employees do you have?
And if you get the bid, PLEASE, keep us informed on how the job goes, what your setup was with everything, and how much square footage/hour you're hitting it with. Guys like me can really use this information. Don't except any advice from me, for I have no knowledge in this part of the business. And if I get in a "know it all" mood and run my mouth, just ignore me or tell the pig man to tell me to go clean my trailer out
Nate The Great
Member
Who remembers Fort Knox cleaning?!? 660,000sf of HWE with protection added....
Have a plan and shoot for the moon...
Have a plan and shoot for the moon...
Desk Jockey
Member
We used two man crews and had two supervisors. Did it twice a year for two years and eventually convinced them to switch to encap.
The encap we did with 8 people, 6 Cimex's in half the time and it looked better, dried faster and was secured. No extra staff to guard our entry points.
We cleaned with encap for the next 3 years but they squeezed it down to one cleaning a year instead of two. We raised our price .03 a sq/ft and the kicked us to the curb.
And the rest is Rock n Roll history!
The encap we did with 8 people, 6 Cimex's in half the time and it looked better, dried faster and was secured. No extra staff to guard our entry points.
We cleaned with encap for the next 3 years but they squeezed it down to one cleaning a year instead of two. We raised our price .03 a sq/ft and the kicked us to the curb.
And the rest is Rock n Roll history!
Let them " See" the truckmount cleaning the entry ways and then either bonnet/cimex/crb/walkbehind extractor the rest.
Do it all the time
Do it all the time
Mikey P
Administrator
Who remembers Fort Knox cleaning?!? 660,000sf of HWE with protection added....
Have a plan and shoot for the moon...
Yeah..
And both of them stopped posting here after that.... What did that tell you...
hogjowl
Idiot™
Just ignore everybody except Chavez.
Seriously
Seriously
What happened?
Doug Rice
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I'm still wondering what happened to the WalMart entryway cleaning job?
ronbeatty
Member
If you can't price at .20 plus, stay home.
Figure out what it will actually cost you to do the job, add what you'd like to "make" on top of that and there ya go. I'd bid less than any price that has been posted so far, with plenty of profit left. Some things to consider.
-your not cleaning all 158000 square feet, much of it will be covered by cubes, file cabinets, etc.
- cleaning 4x a year that carpet should never be very dirty anyway so you'll be moving, at least 2k square foot per hour.
- you can make a little less "per hour" on this job and way make it up in volume. Nice score I'd like to have one of those land in my lap right about now!
-your not cleaning all 158000 square feet, much of it will be covered by cubes, file cabinets, etc.
- cleaning 4x a year that carpet should never be very dirty anyway so you'll be moving, at least 2k square foot per hour.
- you can make a little less "per hour" on this job and way make it up in volume. Nice score I'd like to have one of those land in my lap right about now!
roro
Member
You wear roller skates when cleaning to achieve that speed?
Seriously if you can achieve that for eight hours a day I would love to know your technique
roro
Desk Jockey
Member
Its all good if you can encap but if you are forced to HWE its not worth the effort.
Hose management was just nuts. Each truck had 300 foot of hose. It was blue spaghetti with hoses everywhere.
Fresh water, lunches, breaks, coordinating were a pain too.
Hose management was just nuts. Each truck had 300 foot of hose. It was blue spaghetti with hoses everywhere.
Fresh water, lunches, breaks, coordinating were a pain too.
dgardner
Moderator
No kidding. How dirty is it? On impacted CGD I've never been able to get it completely clean the first time through - always wicks back - and I have to go back and padcap it.
Wouldn't want to be in that situation on a big job...
Cleanworks
Moderator
A job like this either needs to be done in stages or with multiple units and a large crew. I like Chris's answer, figure out what it's going to cost you and add what you want to make on top.
GreenTechAgain
Member
Why don't you just ask them what they are paying now?
Bob Pruitt
Member
12 cents and whatever you normally charge of the furniture/office chairs and commercial stairs. Sell fabric protection for entry and stairs... $20k plus-
Looks like you have night work for a while and long weekends... So a very solid week to 10 days of killer hours...if you are a young guy and have help ... then go for it! Take pictures and post. Zipper for better production rate.
Looks like you have night work for a while and long weekends... So a very solid week to 10 days of killer hours...if you are a young guy and have help ... then go for it! Take pictures and post. Zipper for better production rate.
I finished it, they paid me. The carpet still looked like crap.
Lesson learned...Never clean walmart entryway carpet. You get more crap out of that carpet than you would if you cleaned your back yard. And your back yard would look better.
Braden bell
Member
In my experience people say quarterly until they hear the price
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Yes they're thinking quarters, not dollars.
Desk Jockey
Member
It will take them a quarter of the year to pay you! 
ruff
Member
Whatever happened to price quoting the New Jersey way?
Client- How much?
Cleaner- How much you got?
Always worked for these guys-
Client- How much?
Cleaner- How much you got?
Always worked for these guys-
Desk Jockey
Member
Good Fellas. 
