Rotovac cfx ranger and 360i (the ultimate Portable discussion)

Discussion in 'The Hardware' started by Sky, Mar 29, 2017.

By Sky on Mar 29, 2017 at 9:39 PM
  1. Sky
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    I purchased the delux package from rotovac and have recently started using it. I am new to carpet cleaning and am absolutely flustered by the set-up and breakdown time. Some people say it only takes them about twenty minutes to set up their porty where as it took me about 40min to set up the cfx to the faucet run hose to the toilet and begin auto pump out.

    Is this set up time normal when first starting or is this simply normal for the rotovac portable package? I do not have the money for a TM so no need to suggest it. Also there are 6 wires needed, where as other portables only have about two to four wires. Any thoughts on this?

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Discussion in 'The Hardware' started by Sky, Mar 29, 2017.

    1. Sky
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      Trying to be as pragmatic and prepared as pisdible. Thanks
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      Possible
    3. Goomer
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      My mistake, but trust me, adding a heater to your existing setup would be a mistake at this point in the game.
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      And you should be, so figure out how many amps each cord on your equipment pulls.

      That's the first step.
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      Sky, get a circuit tester or check the box to make sure you are on different breakers. Simple. Whatever your reasons for not getting a truckmount, I think you can do just fine with the rotovac and my back says it wishes I had one too.

      Can we trust you to make hot water and then pull the heater out before starting the machine? I'm asking for a friend.
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      LOL.....His water temp should be the last thing on his mind at this point.

      He has no experience and hasn't had his equipment for more than a few weeks.

      Does he really need one more amp guzzling component to plug in and monitor?
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      Used my #2 LG today, man I love that little fooker.. I used 2 electrical heaters when I can't use my LG.. Heat does play a bigger part especially with portables, your already at a disadvantage....

      Plug into different rooms/ walls... That's all she wrote folks...:winky:
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      It's not about the benefits of heat.

      Again, my point is this guy is inexperienced and not yet intimately familiar, or at all efficient with the equipment he already has.

      Not the best time to start ADDING components.

      Except for a sweet lil' Oreck.
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      @Sky .

      You will need - some - heat from somewhere. Suppose you get a job with a pee spot. What are you going to mix the treatment with if the property has no hot water, or hot water too cold to activate your treatment?

      You need - some - heat source even if you don't use it most of the time because the sink has all you need.


      Maybe it's a bucket heater, maybe it's a kettle, maybe it's an inline heater?

      Whatever you do though, in the end some things just require one.
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      And same goes for a Water Claw, or WaterVac or Aquahelix or DryEaz to remove pet pee, standing water and other subsurface liquid based nastiness too.
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      There's a litle more to the though process than that.
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      Honestly mate I'm not super human. Well organised yes but not super human. I have just sat down over many lonely nights and using the interwebz worked out what I can do to make me a system that works. I have made mistakes. I have a Sebo mini CRB and it's just not powerful enough to cut it full time. Set me back $800 AU.

      But the Rotovac has been a boon for my business. In a world that relies on being competitive it equalises a very large investment in back end hardware.

      A mount worth $30k USD or about $45K AUD will only clean faster than me. It won't deliver a result I can't. So that's good. That's really compelling when you have the need for a good clean with tough access.

      It's important @Sky serve the porty niche well. And with the choice of a tank system or a fully automatic setup they can have a taste of truckmount flexibility and continuous productivity. Just read the job's requirements and use the appropriate setup. There is no hiding from the learning that needs be done. But that's where we can help.

      @Sky .

      Pre-spray discussions are done to death and not generally taken seriously. Which is actually a pisser because it's a critical chemical interface to the cleaning process and a shit one will cause you bad performance, resoling and colour loss. Not good at all. Really bad for business.

      Get a good one.

      I have no brand allegiance but Mikey's Board has a number of terrific sponsors who sell alkaline enzyme pre-spray powder concentrates, which is what I recommend you buy. A HF will save you valuable time and put your chemicals down with the pressure from your system. So much better than continuous pumping of a plastic sprayer - which you still need from time to time sadly.

      A number of people here like @Goomer are very clever people. If we seem to offer contrary advice it's because our experiences have varied. Not because either of use are dicking with you.

      @Desk Jockey is a very funny dude with a dry sense of humour. Must be Australian. He is also pretty clever and now and again he bothers to say something like he has here. But mostly he dribbles shit. :stir:

      There are countless other good elves.

      But not @hogjowl , he's a bastard.... :marty:
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      That's because you don't need my help. Plenty of good advice from others.

      You do need my shit, not enough of that being doled out for ya'll! :winky:
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      There comes a point where you have spent as much money on a portable system as you could have on an entry level truck mount. I just sold a little TM to a friend who had been up to now using portables only. He can't believe the power and simplicity compared to what he has been doing. He had to go out and buy a glide for the wand because the concept of enough suction to stick the wand to the carpet was foreign to him. Take a good look at how much you are spending on machines, tools, heaters, generators, etc and compare it to a $15,000 TM and see how much further you may be ahead
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      If your desired client base really is a portable market than consider keeping the CFX set up and getting a traditional porty as well.

      Both systems have their need and a back up is crucial
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      Here... Here...

      What are you going to do with only 1 machine of any type if there is a failure? Provision for faults. A spare system is gold.
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      A buffer and bonnets has got me out oof a couple issues.
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      Plug in the most amps in the kitchen, it has the strongest circuits due to the appliances. Laundry rooms and bathrooms too usually.
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      Three tasks slow down the porty operator:
      1) having to move the setup to complete the job
      2) having to manage multiple cords and hoses.
      3) the bucket brigade on big jobs.-- If the job is small, then the bucket is better then dealing with the extra hoses.

      I prefer to set up only once if possible-- thats why I prefer a porty that can use 50-75ft. 2 vac inch hose, duel 3 stage vacs in parallel. I only use the auto dump/fill on larger jobs.
      If you get a better porty, then you can use a Zipper to eliminate one more cord when you don't need the 360BH and you will move the porty less often due to longer hoses.
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