So Warning or No warning?

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  1. Papa John
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    If you are going to be eliminating a position-- do you give the person a 1 or 2 week warning Or just make it an unpleasant surprise?
    I'm concerned about the damage an unhappy "LameDuck" could do.
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    watch the pro's do it at 22.22
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    We usually just end it.

    Severance pay depends on length of time with us. Most we give none however we have given a week several times and 2 weeks to a few that had been here awhile.
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    Pay him his severance with no warning. Just rip that Band-Aid right off.
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    Loved that.

    Heard Joe several times, always great!
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    Always fire someone the moment you make the decision. You are asking for anWC claim or worse. I learned this the hard way.
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    Joe is a real Pro with how he runs the "Back of the House"--- (employee management)
    Someday when I grow up I'll try to operate like him---

    My Fear is-- If I ran my company like I demanded perfection from my employees-- I'd have no employees-- or extremely high turn over.

    2016 revenue was about 80k below 2015.
    I blamed about 3 other possible causes- but after a test I think I discovered the major cause-- Our CSR was relying on voicemail too much as wasn't answering the calls.

    That's what I'm worried about.

    Thanks---that's what I'm going to do.
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    Glad you're still hanging around. Thought you'd died.
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    Yea

    More Justin and less Lee


    At least I can follow what the kid says
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    He must speak in "tongues"
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    I went to a seminar about 300 years ago it seems, and my favorite part went something like this:

    "When you get an employee that annoys you so much that you try to find ways to avoid them at the workplace, fire them. Even if you have to pay unemployment, its worth it just to get the burden of them driving you down away from you."

    Its almost like the bitter joke that goes:

    Question: "Do you know why divorce is so expensive?"

    Answer: "Because its worth it"

    Pay whatever price you have to and get the bad guys or gals out of your workplace.

    Now.
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    I was one of those employees. Hence I knew I had to work for my own self.
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    Wow, Jimmy that's probably a great thread idea. I came to the same conclusion after working for goobers.
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    not to be confused with peanuts Marty.
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    If it's a performance issue firing should never be a surprise. The employee should know what's expected, given time and coaching to try and measure up, then if not enough improvement dismissed with a "hope you find a better fit for your talents."

    If you're downsizing you have to rip the bandage off.
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    When I was old enough to figure out that my father owned a business and all my friends' fathers had jobs, I asked Lee why he started his own business.

    He said: "Jim, I got tired of working for people dumber than me, and with that outlook, I'm unemployable. No one in their right mind would hire me."
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    :biggrin:

    So true!
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    There's no way I'd hire ANY OF YOU IDIOTS!
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