This dirty old Butler.

[Russ T.]

Previous owner didn't wash the truck or remove his magnets before showing it off to me. It was remarkably filthy.

You can see another outline of one of the fabulous magnets that were on there in this picture. Up front in the lower wheel well I had to replace a plastic trim piece. The body is very true and straight and the wrap should make it look great! Probably wheel covers or something cheap for now on the wheels...

I think the roof is going to be great when I'm done with it!

This was after rubbing on it for probably an hour and a half. The inside will happen in the future sometime.

I'm actually assuming nothing has been done to it in 15 years, by the general filth of the van. I'm not mechanical at all so I hope it's not too hard to get it running like new again.

Very low miles and hours on this gem.

 

[Mikey P]

easy peasy

 

[Russ T.]

It's going to be awesome. It was incredibly filthy BUT incredibly quiet and smooth going down the road...all the way from near Philly, PA. Ive got a lot of cleaning to do on the inside and I will probably change each belt and fluid.

What should I attempt to do?

What should I pay my mechanic to do?

Should I go ahead and descale it or run something else through it to clear it all out?

It just sat for SO long. 791 original cleaning hours on an '02 Butler.

 

[Russ T.]

easy peasy

But mine will out clean yours...

 

[Russ T.]

 

[Nate The Great]

It's going to be awesome. It was incredibly filthy BUT incredibly quiet and smooth going down the road...all the way from near Philly, PA. Ive got a lot of cleaning to do on the inside and I will probably change each belt and fluid.

What should I attempt to do?

What should I pay my mechanic to do?

Should I go ahead and descale it or run something else through it to clear it all out?

It just sat for SO long. 791 original cleaning hours on an '02 Butler.

New hour meter and unhooked speedometer cable will keep it at low hours...


Congrats on scoring it!

 

[Russ T.]

New hour meter and unhooked speedometer cable will keep it at low hours...


Congrats on scoring it!

Don't be that guy!

I have no doubt the hours/miles are accurate, neither does my mechanic. He was my first stop. Even before I washed it.

But this deal didn't come without some extra work. I've never been all that afraid of it though.

 

[FB7777]

This wa a great deal all around, if it's a 2002 Butler, he paid around $40 K and you paid $18 for it?

Getting 45% of your money back after 15 years of neglect is awesome

 

[BIG WOOD]

For the descaling, I'd just remove a few of the hoses and see how they look in the inside. If it looks good, it shouldn't need it. But if it sat for a long time, I'd get an opinion on how Butler descales their machines.

 

[FB7777]

Mark Saiger has a great video on YouTube for descaling a Butler

He,saved my ass when my machine was goofed up with powder rinse

Followed the procedure twice and got it running like new

 

[Mark Saiger]

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Previous owner didn't wash the truck or remove his magnets before showing it off to me. It was remarkably filthy. View attachment 72051 View attachment 72052
You can see another outline of one of the fabulous magnets that were on there in this picture. Up front in the lower wheel well I had to replace a plastic trim piece. The body is very true and straight and the wrap should make it look great! Probably wheel covers or something cheap for now on the wheels...View attachment 72053
I think the roof is going to be great when I'm done with it!View attachment 72054
This was after rubbing on it for probably an hour and a half. The inside will happen in the future sometime.

I'm actually assuming nothing has been done to it in 15 years, by the general filth of the van. I'm not mechanical at all so I hope it's not too hard to get it running like new again.

Very low miles and hours on this gem.

Rusty...

I would
do a descale,
do a blower clean out and lube,

check all filters which one is behind your drivers seat under that lid for the blower,

and change out filter going to waste tank if inside the tank...I have some tricks for you here later too....

Change all lubricants in the Cat pump and blower (that Blower is probably a grease front end blower too)

We will get you set up to bypass the live reel on the unit...or only carry 100 feet of hose on the reel and rest of hose in back....and maybe get you set up with 50 feet of 2.5 inch hose.

Change the belts under the Butler lid, and also get an extra set of belts to keep in the truck

Change the belts on the front of the van (this is a bit more work but nothing has to be removed except old belts and you use a 3/8 inch drive of socket wrench) and again, get an extra set of belts to have in the van for the front.
With that low of hours the lower pulley on the front of the van motor (on the crankshaft) should be no problem really but they can eventually groove out and lose belt tension

That is a vacuum pod RPM control, so you will want to make sure they are set so at high speed you are hitting the red line of 1750 rpm.

For the Van motor oil, we use Rotella T 15-40 weight oil...and change oil at least every 1500 miles (that oil is made for diesel motors but since always garage kept...it works very well for us) Also, Dodge dealers Diesel motor oil is Rotella T 15-40 if want to get serviced there, and we also have an express Lube here that has that as their Diesel motor oil....

And you have me on Speed Dial....WE are going to talk!....

Heck...I should just get on the road and get on down there and super tune that baby this weekend!

But here is my Butler Maintenance playlist with all the above mentioned except changing the belts in the front of the van...that is a hard one to video and do...

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLg45027waKT_z6O_BzzCsmJcC5r2teKCf

 

[Wing It]

Congrats Russ! Where did you find this deal?

 

[Lee Stockwell]

That's the way to buy 'em.

 

[Kevin De Medeiros]

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Previous owner didn't wash the truck or remove his magnets before showing it off to me. It was remarkably filthy. View attachment 72051 View attachment 72052
You can see another outline of one of the fabulous magnets that were on there in this picture. Up front in the lower wheel well I had to replace a plastic trim piece. The body is very true and straight and the wrap should make it look great! Probably wheel covers or something cheap for now on the wheels...View attachment 72053
I think the roof is going to be great when I'm done with it!View attachment 72054
This was after rubbing on it for probably an hour and a half. The inside will happen in the future sometime.

I'm actually assuming nothing has been done to it in 15 years, by the general filth of the van. I'm not mechanical at all so I hope it's not too hard to get it running like new again.

Very low miles and hours on this gem.

Congratulations Russ. That's a great deal on an awesome machine

 

[Russ T.]

This wa a great deal all around, if it's a 2002 Butler, he paid around $40 K and you paid $18 for it?

Getting 45% of your money back after 15 years of neglect is awesome

He said it was 55K back in the day, but he said a lot of things.

 

[Russ T.]

Thanks so much guys!!

Mark, I can't tell you the sense of security KNOWING you'd drive 6 hours down here to help me with my new rig. You're a class act.

 

[Russ T.]

Congrats Russ! Where did you find this deal?

Mark mentioned to me, or here on the board I can't remember, that there was a listing on Butler's website.

I saw it and jumped immediately. I don't think he understood what he had, even considering it's filthy condition and general lack of use and maintenance over the years.

 

[FB7777]

He said it was 55K back in the day, but he said a lot of things.

Yea , he's full of it. I bought a 2001 Butler 1,2 and 3 package with electric reel, 210 recovery tank and rear filter bag for $40K

My 2005 Butler was loaded with high heat , 210 tank , big blower and paid $50K


That set up you have now would run $65K new .

 

[FB7777]

Thanks so much guys!!

Mark, I can't tell you the sense of security KNOWING you'd drive 6 hours down here to help me with my new rig. You're a class act.

Russ the band of Butler brothers runs deep!

781-603-8695

 

[Cleanworks]

The Butler did it.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Russ the band of Butler brothers runs deep!

781-603-8695

Caesar's #

 

[Desk Jockey]

Peter Seltzer

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Need an both on speed dial!

(Seriously both likely hurt Butler cred by association back then)

 

[Russ T.]

The belts and fluids came from Butler today. I'll have to install another day.

We scrubbed and vacuumed for about 2 hours. The inside is almost immaculate now.

The chem hose is caked solid from lack of use...it was empty...except for hardened pieces of something in the bottom. The solution line is jumping all over the place. I'm replacing the hose and going to try to get the juices flowing.

Everything is right in my face when I lift the lid and Saiger is on speed dial!

This is going to be great once the kinks get ironed out. Turns out the dirty old Butler is super clean!

 

[Russ T.]

I got a rebuild kit for the chem pump, a new chem hose, and a new stainless blower protection screen.

Pricing on odds an ends through Butler has been very reasonable. I sort of expected to be hit by some kind of Butler tax but that hasn't been the case.

 

[hogjowl]

Everybody in Massachusetts is an asshole, so they're going to screw you eventually.

But Saiger will make you feel good about it.

 

[BIG WOOD]

Hahaha

 

[Russ T.]

Everybody in Massachusetts is an asshole, so they're going to screw you eventually.

What are they waiting for?!

 

[hogjowl]

Boyle to wake them up

 

[Bob Pruitt]

Great job Russ!