Triexta

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By JamesBaileySmith on Feb 11, 2016 at 1:01 PM
  1. JamesBaileySmith
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    What are your experiences in cleaning SmartStrand carpets? Can you tell the difference between PET polyester and Triexta, PTT?

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    1. Mikey P
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      Mixed results based on how much loom goop was left on from the manufacturing process.

      I was very pleased with how some I had in my old home performed

      I can't tell the two apart.
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      They all suck.


      So much for everything migrating towards being green and recycled.... When we need to nuke these "new" fabrics like no other before..
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      In order from crap to horrible, recently manufactured Poly/PolyBlend/SmartStrand. The mills are producing pure crap in these products. It's creating big confusion among cleaners coast to coast; thinking they have to be cleaned some "special" way. To many are failing in the traffic lanes and in other pile distortions as compared to their big brother nylons. I have personally seen Shaw go out of their way to hire an inspector that tells them what they want to hear and throw the carpet cleaner under the bus, and then the customer is left with having to go to small claims court for a claim. It's sad.
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      I find it curious that at a time of declining interest in having carpet in the home that manufacturers are making products that reinforce the belief that carpet doesn't hold up to even moderate use, doesn't clean easily or well, and doesn't stay clean.

      If I wanted to go back in time and create even less market share than carpet already has had, I'd have had them push polyester and its "dressed up cousin" triexta even sooner into the game.
    5. NobleCarpetCleaners
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      a poet couldn't have said it better Jim.
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      It seems pretty obvious that Mohawk is aware of the "loom oil lubricant" problem with PET carpet fibers .
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      Well said.

      Intelligent life on earth?
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      We have a very active Mohawk dealer here in and he refers me exclusively, so I am constantly cleaning 1 year old, or so, Smart Strand. It's always prematurely worn. I cleaned an 8 month old ST today. It was worn. It makes me mad what that stuff is doing to the market here.
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      why can't they get it all out. They know what's gonna happen, they need to figure it out. It would solve part of the problem
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      "Manufacturers" are no longer carpet manufacturers. Shaw, Mohawk etc are now flooring manufactuers. They probabl;y make more money selling you wood, bamboo, tile, stone, LVT and LVP. They don't care that carpet has a smaller market share.
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      Sadly, I'm sure that is exactly how they feel about it
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      I agree 100%
      The mils are driving with their eyes closed!
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      Or wide open and alert....seeing the bigger bags of money...selling floor coverings other than carpets.


      This might be our problem only. Now that we're maxing out the technology and the equipment available to clean carpets.. Perhaps we are going to see and uptick of efficient wood cleaning equipment developed. Better stone, tile-n-grout techniques. Just the same way as carpet cleaning equipment caught up to be very efficient and easy to do.
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      I want you to think about how lame our grout cleaning techniques are... Can you picture small motorized equipment that has adjustable mechanism that matches tile width and scrub the grout lines simultaneously? There is a world of opportunities to be developed.

      Think about the basic idea of installing grout....how old school is that? I can imagine the "chemistry" of grout lines being developed to be able to regrout damaged lines a'la caulking guns or similar. Which means we could develop super efficient and fast grout removal machines too that will do everything without a speck of dust.
      You show up like you do to clean carpets....except your equipment is totally different and you remove damaged grout and re-shoot new grout lines in a matter of a couple of hours and you leave...
      There is so much out there that needs to be created...
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      Another thought about this generation of carpets: We still have some people that believe that ol' myth of not cleaning new carpets unless it's absolutely necessary, because they learned that from their grandmother.

      Now I think we're coming to the point where we will have to offer special deals -through carpet sellers- to clean brand new just installed carpets before they're being used. And we would go in and nuke the oils off and perhaps extend the period, before wear will show (since we get a lot of the sticky out that holds onto dust and dirt which could give premature wear).

      So in short, we will start a new trend that is the complete opposite of the old myth.
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      Triexta was created for a very specific reason and the carpet mills know why. They created it to help address the problems that are inherent in all Polyester carpets. #1 how do you create a fiber that is even cheaper than the carpet we have now, remember if the customer sees a product for $5 today, they expect it to be $4.50 next year, and will not pay $5.50 for it next year (Americans expect cheap) #2 Polyester is made from petrochemicals and with the high prices of oil, at the time, a cheaper substitute was desired. #3. Many Americans are getting on the "green" or "renewable" kick without understanding what it really means. so the Triexta can be labeled as "green" because it is recyclable and made from renewable corn oil. Does this mean anything? who knows but it sounds good to the customer. #3. Triexta is stain resistant and no "protecter" is needed after several years of use as is the case with Nylon, which again sounds great to the customer #4. Triexta is softer feeling than any of the other carpets available and people will take the softer whenever they are presented with the choice. #4. Triexta is also more resilient than polyester, granted that is not a great feat in and of itself.

      The customer will never know any of the reasons why one carpet is better than the other carpet. The sales people have no idea what carpet is about, they are given a handout with all the benefits of this new fancy carpet and regurgitate that information to anyone who will listen. Disadvantages are no where to be found. I have talked with a carpet sales lady with 2 years of experience and in 5 minutes gave her more information about the carpet she was selling than she received in the last 2 years of "training".

      Also the mills are creating other flooring types like @scottw said. The new hard flooring is cheaper to make and can be sold for a higher price because it is the new "in thing". The mills are driven by their own pocket books, not ours. Welcome to capitalism everyone.
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      There is no difference. At one time Triexta was considered to be Polyester.
      Polyester = polyethylene terephthalate (PET)
      Triexta = polytrimethylene terephthalate (PTT)
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      It is garbage, I just try to spread the word. I tell my customers to buy Nylon next time, I even write it on their invoices. People seem to appreciate the advice.
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      Went in to a large flooring distributor a few years ago. National chain. I was buying linoleum for my kitchen.
      Talking to the sales people, they had no idea about different carpets. Like on fire said.

      I took some material in to them, describing characteristics etc. their eyes glazed over!!!lol
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