Ask Damon. He changes his bag every 2 weeks and wonders why his Proteam isn't working anymore
What's the single most important feature in an upright vacuum cleaner
- Thread starter Mikey P
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My Kirby bags last longer.
I bet your vacuums give a wonderful aroma when you click that switch on
Mikey P
Administrator
Smells like money.
Honestly. I never gave it any thought as to the frequency of vacuum bag changes. I got more exciting things to think about.
Mark Von*Lay
Member
I was in Jest....or smart ass mode if you prefer,,,,but that's cool you did that....for me it's Kirby or Royal.....for the money from great vacs....and I can snag a commercial royal for under 250. I don't see myself ever changing.and I dig the hard wood spinning brush on the Kirby the brush is I would say a medium and if you don't have a CRB.... It power grooms the carpet nice.
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Flat commercial with a pad underneath. The brush is abusing that carpet rather well. Just think how well it gets in medium to thick residential carpet.
I think the problem you had with yours was the springs needed a drop of wd40.
http://www.jondon.com/pk-2-spring-lock-for-1500xp.html
When I purchased my proteam, I had the same problem of the brush not touching the carpet. I lubed those springs up, and it works perfect.
Mikey P
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all I saw was vibration not any pile being opened up.
Lets see whats in that (cheap) bag..
Lets see whats in that (cheap) bag..
Mikey P
Administrator
You're terrible at admitting you're wrong. There's no pile to be lifted. It's commercial, duh. I was just making a point that the brush does work on the carpet, very well
I didn't open the bag because I'm too cheap to waste a good bag. It won't show much because I only did 3 areas that didn't have much funk. Maybe Damon has a video on opening one of his proteam bags
This came from about 100 sq ft of already vacuumed carpet, this is a regular customer,
single lady with one small dog.
I agree that the brushroll makes a big difference in the vacuum.
I agree that the brushroll makes a big difference in the vacuum.
Nate The Great
Member
lol, I'll take that as a complement
See I see it the other way.
Vacuums are made for lazy people who won't accept machines setup to do one job well and instead like a much more dumbed down thing thats simple to use.
I get the attraction, but the effectiveness is thrown under the bus to get it. Not good when you need effectiveness so you can extract the job to its best potential.
Fresh bag every job and wash the outer bag once a week. Easy.
Mikey P
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Dolly Llama
Number 5
except it's not `1963 anymore Grant .
You can have it all in one vac today .
You don't have to sacrifice anything, as the modern by-pass motor vacs pick-up every bit as good (as some better) as the antique Royal/Kirby design
don't go by hype and vac salesmen tricks used in peoples homes
Do side by side tests on brand new carpets with measured amounts of soil .
You'll be surprised there's not a dimes worth of difference in most vacs ..and you might even cry when a cheapazz fiddy dollar POS Bissell picks up more
I've owned Kirby vacs, I'm not at all suggesting they're not a good vac..they most certainly are a good vac
What I am saying is, they don't pick up any better than most uprights that cost 1/4 as much with all the features that makes our life easier/more efficient
I won't even mention the degradation of performance over time as the fan blades get SAND BLASTED daily
(welp...guess I did mention it )
.L.T.A.
I use the Zip brush for stairs @Mikey P
See my testing shows it to be the other way.except it's not `1963 anymore Grant .
You can have it all in one vac today .
You don't have to sacrifice anything, as the modern by-pass motor vacs pick-up every bit as good (as some better) as the antique Royal/Kirby design
don't go by hype and vac salesmen tricks used in peoples homes
Do side by side tests on brand new carpets with measured amounts of soil .
You'll be surprised there's not a dimes worth of difference in most vacs ..and you might even cry when a cheapazz fiddy dollar POS Bissell picks up more
I've owned Kirby vacs, I'm not at all suggesting they're not a good vac..they most certainly are a good vac
What I am saying is, they don't pick up any better than most uprights that cost 1/4 as much with all the features that makes our life easier/more efficient
I won't even mention the degradation of performance over time as the fan blades get SAND BLASTED daily
(welp...guess I did mention it )
.L.T.A.
The longer the air network thr greater the losses in flow owing to friction and static pressure drop.
If there is no penalty for increasing air network length, why don't guys just hookup and run all their hose no matter how close they can be to the job?
Because its not that way.
Modern hybrid vacuums exist to sell to consumers. Consumers who want easy, know little about cleaning tools and care even less.
The ideas I posit here are.... mine too....
Thank you kindly.
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G
Looks like loads... but how much is it really?
Don't you guys buy potatoes by the pound?
How much does it weigh?
Looks like loads... but how much is it really?
Don't you guys buy potatoes by the pound?
Dolly Llama
Number 5
do tell
brand new carpet with measured equal amounts of test medium side by side?
tell the truth
..L.T.A
Exactly that.
New .5 x .5m2 nylon carpet cut offs new from retailer, stop watch, ammeter, 1Kg of garden soil, Kirby Sentria, Amway CMS 2000, carpet sweeper (control).
Direct fan recovers substancially more for less time and significantly less electrical consumption.
Not home at the minute. Sunday jobs rule...!
Post more about it very shortly.
TomKing
Supportive Member
Electricity
