Which Sapphire TM would be the better Dual Wander..

[MB Auctions]

The 870ss with its 410 blower or the Pro1200 with it's 56 blower


I wonder if Rick Aranda has done any hose run testing on the two..

 

[BLewis]

Good question, I would like to see test outcomes on this also.

 

[Dan]

I found these specs. Why Sapphire doesn't list specs better is beyond me. I can also say owning a pro 1200 I would no consider it a true dual wander.

https://locu.com/places/allen-equipment-chandler-us/

 

[Mikey P]

thanks Dan

Everest Hp 650 w/ 100 Gallon Waste Tank

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This simple to maintain truck mount has been engineered to meet the needs of even the most discriminating user. Hyundai 1.6 liter 68 h.P / 3600 rpm engine, 650cfm triflow blower, general 5.5gpm pump, patented heat exchange system eliminates bypass to the waste tank. True dual wand operation. Auto chemical prime. High pressure circuit: up to 3,000 psi for pressure washing. 100 Gallon waste tank

870SS LIQUID COOLED HIGH PRESSURE WITH HEAT​

Model- 870Ss High Pressure Truckmount

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Powerplant- Ford Tsg-416 4 Cyl. 63 Hp 1.6 L Liquid-Cooled Engine Operating at 2600 Rpm

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Vacuum Pump- Gardner Denver 410 Trilobe Blower 700 Cfm 16 Hg

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Solution Pump- General 2500 Psi, 5.6 Gpm

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Waste Tank- 90 Gal. (340 L) Tig-Welded 3/16 in. Marine-Grade Aluminum. 75 Gal. (283 L) at Shutoff. Option: High Capacity Tank 120 Gal. (454 L) / 100 Gal. (379 L) at Shutoff.

Same blower, yet 50 CFM difference..?

I wish Lance would put his up against the Waterfall's Vortex to do a comparison.

I know that I can put out two 150' runs off my V and still get more scream from the wand than a single run off my 4.8 blower.

 

[Dan]

thanks Dan







Same blower, yet 50 CFM difference..?

I wish Lance would put his up against the Waterfall's Vortex to do a comparison.

I know that I can put out two 150' runs off my V and still get more scream from the wand than a single run off my 4.8 blower.[/FONT][/COLOR]

I wonder if its a plumbing difference and if the CFM was truly tested the same.

 

[Bill Bruders]

The 870 is your everyday duel wand slide in Champion. The 1200 is a leading design direct drive that can take on duel wand opportunities. How's that for an answer :-)

 

[Lance Golden]

Mike,
Kemp and I would be happy to... However, neither of us has a CFM meter.
Although I have "suggested" to Kemp to come out and clean with a "real truckmount"
For some reason, he just laughs... IDK...

 

[Dan]

The 870 is your everyday duel wand slide in Champion. The 1200 is a leading design direct drive that can take on duel wand opportunities. How's that for an answer :-)

that sounds fair.

 

[Nampa Carpet Cleaning]

The 870 is your everyday duel wand slide in Champion. The 1200 is a leading design direct drive that can take on duel wand opportunities. How's that for an answer :-)

How many Pro 1200's are out in the field if you don't mind me asking Bill? I would love to have one of those someday…What are you plans for the new vans that are coming to the market? I don't think a direct drive will work with most of the newer vans getting ready to hit the market soon. Hopefully chevy will keep their cargo van as it is for a while.

 

[Mikey P]

Bill can you find out where the closest 870ss is to me?

 

[Dan]

Bill can you find out where the closest 870ss is to me?

cashing in the V?

 

[Bill Bruders]

How many Pro 1200's are out in the field if you don't mind me asking Bill? I would love to have one of those someday…What are you plans for the new vans that are coming to the market? I don't think a direct drive will work with most of the newer vans getting ready to hit the market soon. Hopefully chevy will keep their cargo van as it is for a while.

Since all of our competitors use this board (as well as others sorry mike) to gauge new idea interest as well as find out who's buying what I can't really answer the number in the field question. I can tell you that we are thrilled with the sakes results of the updated model we sell versus the WM model we purchased. I can have a Sapphire person contact you with more info including a "test drive" . Also with our financing program things can be more affordable than you might think.
As for new cargo van designs we have been working on these since the transit connect was introduced. Innovation never stops!!!

 

[Bill Bruders]

Bill can you find out where the closest 870ss is to me?

I'll have Rick A get ahold of you

 

[Dan]

Bill, it would be nice to see full specs on the website. Some of us techy guys like details.

 

[dealtimeman]

Bill are y'all overdriving the blower?

i ask because on Gardner Denver website PDF it states the highest cfm stated at 638 - 16hg at 4000 rpm.

http://www.gardnerdenverproducts.co.../472/b1709b4a-c1f0-46b9-b89b-bbadff6bc969.pdf

 

[Desk Jockey]

Yea I would think it's going to need to be more than just a CFM number, you'll need to factor in inches of lift too. How much mercury can it pull also!

 

[clean image]

It rated over 700 at 10hg

My question on what makes these blowers 4-10 have such higher lift than standard 4007 trilobe

 

[Desk Jockey]

Our 805 has a 5-LP turning at 2800 rpms and pulling 13-HG and 805cfm

 

[hogjowl]

Everybody sells Mexicans slightly off brand or used stuff.

I suspect Sapphire is no different.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Leeeme take this opportunity to recant my statement about enjoying that you post here.

You suck!


LOL

 

[hogjowl]

Tell me where you said that.

I want to go read it before Mikey or Fred edits it out.