Prochem vs Magic Wand

[hogjowl]

I've been waiting for my rental move out season to start so I cold sample two products side by side. Here are the two products.


I tested the side by side on a job today and they both did very well. I couldn't tell much difference between the two.



So, I could go with either product and be fine, performance wise. The problem was in the packaging.

The Prochem product was liquid and the recommended mix was 16 oz per gallon. The Magic Wand product was powder and mixed at 1 oz per gallon.
Now which would YOU buy?
I don't understand why some mfgs don't consentrate their products more?

 

[Mikey P]

Price per ounce?

 

[hogjowl]

I'm not certain on the Prochem product. I won it at auction.

The Magic Wand product is packaged in a 30 lb. pail that I paid $206 for. 30 lbs is 480 ozs. So it's 43 cents per ounce or 43 cents per RTU gallon.

I'll have to look up the Prochem product.

Ok, looked it up at Jon-Don. Price per gallon, including shipping, is going to be right around $21 per gallon. $21/128 = 16 cents per oz. 16 ozs per gallon would be $2.56 per ready to use gallon.

 

[Goomer]

A 175 scrub can make most any product shine.

Which product cleans better without a scrubbin?

 

[Mikey P]

Which product cleans better without a scrubbin?

bravo!


the first sign of the silver bullet!

 

[hogjowl]

At $2.56 per RTU gallon, the Prochem product should get the rotary off the van for me and scrub it itself.

Not sure about your question though. I haven't used the Prochem without scrubbing yet. I HAVE used Grease Eater on several jobs without scrubbing and it does quite well.

 

[Ray Burnfield]

How long does it take to scrub Pre-spray on the average job?

 

[Mikey P]

ten minutes?

 

[hogjowl]

On average, prescrubbing adds 20% to a two man job and 50% to a one man job.

 

[Ray Burnfield]

I've always scrubbed pre-spray regardless of the machine being used.
I guess it's like vacuuming.
1st thing you learn to do but don't do it.

 

[Mikey P]

you know you got a good one when you have to pre scrub before rotary extracting...


Not often, but some times...

 

[Ray Burnfield]

On average, prescrubbing adds 20% to a two man job and 50% to a one man job.

How long is the average job?

 

[Ray Burnfield]

Like Restaurants, Classrooms and trashed office cubicles.

 

[Ray Burnfield]

On average, prescrubbing adds 20% to a two man job and 50% to a one man job.

How long do you let the pre-spray sit before you flush it out?

 

[Mikey P]

we see more flat out pig pens than your list..


a family of four or five slobs, no vacuum and no pride can really do a rug in.

 

[Mikey P]

How long do you let the pre-spray sit before you flush it out?

you'll find two kinds of HWE'rs here, those that pre spray 200 feet or so ahead of them selves and those who spray the whole house..

 

[hogjowl]

How long is the average job?

70 minutes residential and 120 minutes commercial.

 

[hogjowl]

How long do you let the pre-spray sit before you flush it out?

We use electric sprayers on residential jobs and spray two rooms ahead. So, about 10 to 15 minutes.

 

[Mikey P]

and how much do you apply to say, 500 feet of normally soiled, nylon pile?

 

[hogjowl]

That is one thing I don't track, but I'd say X of a gallon. Oops, I'm editing that answer because I forget sometimes that my Multi-Sprayer jug us 2 gallons. So, about a gallon.

 

[Willy P]

No scrub porty cleaned. I would have scrubbed it, but I pulled the scrubber off for some reason.
Ultrachem Clean, peroxide and procyon rinse. None of the above. I love dirty ones.

 

[Ray Burnfield]

We use electric sprayers on residential jobs and spray two rooms ahead. So, about 10 to 15 minutes.

Can you follow the sprayer while you scrub with a 5 minute head start ?

 

[hogjowl]

If I scrub, I don't need dwell.

 

[Ray Burnfield]

If I scrub, I don't need dwell.

What???????????

 

[hogjowl]

Remember your pie

 

[Mikey P]

No scrub porty cleaned. I would have scrubbed it, but I pulled the scrubber off for some reason.
Ultrachem Clean, peroxide and procyon rinse. None of the above. I love dirty ones.

is that a blanket or real loose carpet?

 

[hogjowl]

It's jimmy's diaper.

 

[Ray Burnfield]

I really don't know how a pre-spray could work to it's best ability without agitation and dwell time

 

[Mikey P]

most repeat carpet don't need the "best ability" of any prespray...

just some lubricity and it's deo ability.

 

[Goomer]

The time it takes to scrub will also double as a dwell period.

Best of both worlds.