Are YOU a Rug SUCKER? or just a wand hack?

[T Monahan]

It has been a pain for many a carpet cleaner to cross over to rug washing because of being limited to processing rugs with only the use of a wand. Add to that, limited space and money for an in-plant operation.

Your current truck mount, or high efficiency portable, can not be effective for the power to extract water out of a fully washed rug when used with The Rug Sucker. Please see this rather new innovation that is now helping many to enter the market with a small budget. Joe Roberts is the inventor and has teamed up with Centrum Force in the distribution of these devices. I will make sure that members of this board will get an exceptional discount that will not be offered anywhere else! The discounts will be announced by end of the week. For now, please review the videos.

Flat Woven Rug is usually hard to rinse and extract with just a wand. See this:



The Urine Contaminated Tufted Rug is usually hard to deal with. Watch this technique:



Please visit our website and consider the package options with retail costs outlined.

http://www.centrum-force.com/rug-sucker.html

Note: NO Mikey's Board member will pay full retail and shipping. This offer is only going to be offered by me as in connection with Centrum Force.

 

[Doug Cox]

Please tell what you would expect to charge for sucking the piss out of the 399 dollar rug in the second video.

 

[T Monahan]

Please tell what you would expect to charge for sucking the piss out of the 399 dollar rug in the second video.

What does the client feel is a fair? Keep in mind that some rugs have a different value to the owner.

 

[GeneMiller]

I recently starting taking rugs out. The guy down the road does it for the industry dirt cheap. All I do is pick them up and drop them off. I don't have the extra time for cleaning them. it has really boosted my bottom line. I would definitely recommend anyone not taking them out to start. It's worth the extra money, either doing them your self or letting someone else. It surprises me how much people will spend to clean a rug.

 

[HydroDude]

First time I seen this , I thought, what lame brain came up with this...how can you expect to decontaminate a urine soaked rug through multiple layers?

 

[dgardner]

Interesting concept Tom. What's to prevent people from quietly drilling a bunch o' holes in some ABS pipe and making their own? From what I can see it isn't much more than that.

 

[Mikey P]

good question..

 

[Kellie Hiler]

It seems like a great concept, but I ask the same question as Doug, because I cannot see anyone willing to pay for our time and effort on less expensive area rugs.
If we already have limited space where would we use this? In the customers driveway? And then leave fans to dry it out in their garages?
I have wanted to add rug cleaning to our services but do not have the room or the money to do it so something like this would be awesome, but I can't quite grasp the logistics of it for the reasons above.
What are your recommendations for that?

 

[Kellie Hiler]

Interesting concept Tom. What's to prevent people from quietly drilling a bunch o' holes in some ABS pipe and making their own? From what I can see it isn't much more than that.

Lol...I just told my husband about this and he said his buddy already made something like this.

 

[GeneMiller]

You could make something similar out of a well screen. They come in 2" diameter and different lengths.

 

[Mikey P]

Lots of tiny holes...

 

[GeneMiller]

Actually a well screen has hundreds of small tiny slits. Would work no problem.

 

[T Monahan]

Interesting concept Tom. What's to prevent people from quietly drilling a bunch o' holes in some ABS pipe and making their own? From what I can see it isn't much more than that.

There is more to it than holes in plastic. Thus the US Patent. Besides, all the connections and fittings are included and already packaged. Why waste the time when you can buy it at a fair cost already made according to specifications by the inventor so that it works as intended?

 

[dgardner]

Lots of tiny holes...

Indeed - you can kinda see them in this interior shot:

 

[dgardner]

There is more to it than holes in plastic. Thus the US Patent. Besides, all the connections and fittings are included and already packaged. Why waste the time when you can buy it at a fair cost already made according to specifications by the inventor so that it works as intended?

I couldn't find a patent application, so no idea what other mechanisms are involved. If folks think they can build something for $200 worth of parts and avoid buying one for $1700+ you know some are going to try...

It's good to know that more is involved though - that means that those who just drill a few holes in some ABS probably won't be violating the patent!

 

[T Monahan]

A three foot one retails for $360. Get the 3 foot and 6 foot together, that is called the Journeyman, for $1050 retail. (Not MB pricing) The 3 and 6 join together to make 9 feet. That handles a number of rugs for the entry level guy without a big investment to his operation. Guys and woman already in the rug business have already seen the value of having these in their arsenal. Some compare the ROI much better than a centrifuge. Elements like expense and production are parts of the equation for consideration.

 

[Scott S.]

It has been a pain for many a carpet cleaner to cross over to rug washing because of being limited to processing rugs with only the use of a wand. Add to that, limited space and money for an in-plant operation.

Your current truck mount, or high efficiency portable, can not be effective for the power to extract water out of a fully washed rug when used with The Rug Sucker. Please see this rather new innovation that is now helping many to enter the market with a small budget. Joe Roberts is the inventor and has teamed up with Centrum Force in the distribution of these devices. I will make sure that members of this board will get an exceptional discount that will not be offered anywhere else! The discounts will be announced by end of the week. For now, please review the videos.

Flat Woven Rug is usually hard to rinse and extract with just a wand. See this:



The Urine Contaminated Tufted Rug is usually hard to deal with. Watch this technique:



Please visit our website and consider the package options with retail costs outlined.

http://www.centrum-force.com/rug-sucker.html

Note: NO Mikey's Board member will pay full retail and shipping. This offer is only going to be offered by me as in connection with Centrum Force.

I watched a video with one guy who was using this on a urine soaked rug. he pit washed it rinsed it really well then rolled it up around this thing and hooked it up to his high performance porty and it did not suck the water out of the rug. he then hooked it up to a tm with 400+ cfm and it did better but not perfect. was still soaked in part of the rug.

how are you combating uneven extraction?
(rug is slightly looser around one end of the pipe than the other.

how are you combating the path of least resistance?
air rather move threw the the first rolls fibers from the ends of the rug than get sucked threw 6 rolls of rug backing and fiber.

How long are you letting this thing run on say a 5x8 ft rug? hour?

Are you using this for bulk water removal or are you saying that it will still need wanded after extraction before hanging up to dry?

 

[cleanking]

I've been able to see this product in two separate demos and I think most folks are really over thinking it's actual applications.

For the carpet cleaner turned rug washer it will provide about the same, maybe slightly better in some cases, water extraction as a water claw in much less time. Like someone mentioned you still have to fool with plugging the unused portion of the tube with some kind of plastic to get optimum suction. Water claw could take up to an hour or more for a single large rug. This thing could cut it down to 30mins (ish) and achieve about the same water removal, for most that will effect efficiency pretty substantially.

Then there are people suggesting use for restoration guys to extract rugs and or carpet before removing it from the home, again maybe a little faster than a water claw, but then how do you charge for it in Xactimate? Just a thought.

Also suggested is to use it on heavy wet rugs prior to loading them into a centrifuge, for all the weakly rug washers out there....

Overall it's a simple innovation that can potentially save you some time during extraction. All other uses and claims IMO seem to be attempts at adding value for the "high" price tag.

With all that said, we would have certainly owned one a few years back before our volume began to increase, but at this point it doesn't make sense for us.

 

[T Monahan]

Here is some data to consider from The Rug Sucker Group that talks on Facebook. (It's a private support group that shares ideas among only Rug Suckers):

There are now about 80 shop operations that now have The Rug Sucker. The consensus is that approximately 12 minutes on average is spent on rugs. Rugs obviously come in all sizes and thickness that affect time of operation. The average rug size is approximately a 5x8. Depending on pile and construction, the time to suck is more like 10 minutes. Keep in mind when comparing in to a Water Claw, the Claw still requires labor to move it around repeatedly. In contrast, once you roll the rug up in the tube, the labor is gone for the time required for the extraction of the water.

The Facebook Group mentioned in the onset, is composed of operators that have Water Claws, Centrifuges, and knowledge of Auserehlian cleaning principles taught for drying, A.K.A the fill and drop.

But please note: The Rug Sucker is only as good as the vacuum it is hooked up to and the knowledge of the user of the tool. (I suggest a Truck Mount or ETM)

Are people confused at first? Do they struggle with the technique outlined by the inventor Joe Roberts? YES and YES! But, Joe helps them to get the concept down and voila! They get it figured out only after a handful of rugs. All companies that acquired the device to date has seen improved production after using the tool versus not having this type of tool before.

Remarkably, not one tool has been returned to date!

Side note: I bought my Rug Sucker set retail before I decided to distribute it. I tested the performance in my rug shop. Randy Hyde and Joe Roberts came to my shop in Ann Arbor at their own expense to test it against other methods. One of the methods was Randy's Armenian Centrifuge. Naturally, the best method was the Centrum Force's Centri-Maxx, the horizontal rug wringing centrifuge. We recorded the data on the rug being processed by weighing before and after. We could therefore tell by measuring how much water could be removed in the time allotted for each technique. We broke it down by square foot too. It became clear to me that The Rug Sucker has a place in the rug world. Centrum Force agreed to carry it as Joe's approved distributor.

 

[Cleanworks]

Has anybody tried a prochem aqua helix extraction tool on rugs. Looks like it would perform like a water claw but easier to move and gentler than a wand

 

[Zee]

Gotta love these "you gotta buy one brah' to become a member of our secret society..."
Wooohhooo...



To be honest I don't see anything that would need to be discussed in secret /private groups.
Does the tool work? I'm sure it does... But it sounds a but gimmicky like that epoxy floor guy that was talked about in 2007 and the thread just came up.

 

[NobleCarpetCleaners]

Still in middle of a drought here. Water to clean rugs must be plentiful out there somewhere....

 

[GeneMiller]

I have a section of well pipe , gonna give it a try just for fun. I'm not going to start bring rugs home anytime EVER.

 

[T Monahan]

 

[T Monahan]

The point of the previous graphic is to assist one to think about the value of a fill and drop method, The Rug Sucker, the horizontal centrifuge for rug drying. It's about understanding how water can leave a textile. Get the motion of the water going one way (the same way), the rest will follow when it is entirely wet. It is because of the strength of hydrogen bonds. The holes in The Rug Sucker are by design, not haphazard. There is also a principle of rinsing a rug in a centrifuge that requires a slower spin, not a high speed bragging spin.

 

[ronbeatty]

I just hope you guys figure all this out before I have to start cleaning the three rugs we bought this last couple months

 

[Mikey P]

Still in middle of a drought here. Water to clean rugs must be plentiful out there somewhere....

we may pull the plug on Tahoe and cover you assholes in two feet of water.

 

[Goomer]

Interesting tool, but I don't think it will be efficient at all in removing loose fibers and loose solids, as each inner layer in the roll will act just like a filter.

It does look like it would be a great tool for heavy flushing of expensive wee-wee pads.

 

[Nate The Great]

Interesting tool, but I don't think it will be efficient at all in removing loose fibers and loose solids, as each inner layer in the roll will act just like a filter.

It does look like it would be a great tool for heavy flushing of expensive wee-wee pads.

That's why the dusting process, washing process is very important..... The centrifuge and Rug Sucker are merely tools to help get more of the water out... You will still get a better rinse at the end of it, if all the necessary steps are followed... You can half ass cleaning a rug, but the problems are more likely to show up.... To each there own...

 

[T Monahan]

Interesting tool, but I don't think it will be efficient at all in removing loose fibers and loose solids, as each inner layer in the roll will act just like a filter.

It does look like it would be a great tool for heavy flushing of expensive wee-wee pads.

Hydrogen bonds are strong. May the Force be with you,
http://www.centrum-force.com/rug-sucker.html