Ammonia based rinse query

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Hi, occasionally on a trashed rental moveout with lots of food and drink stains i'll use a high pH prespray boosted with peroxide and run an ammonia rinse. Its an old school rinse but I like the ammonia because it accelerates the peroxide thus removing most stains before rinsing. My question is "although I know the ammonia rinse is self neutralising is it capable of neutralising the prespray?" Visually it works and I've had no complaints just not sure on the potential for premature resoiling?
Not the kind of jobs I chase but I'm sure we all get them.
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The ph of ammonia is 12.6, the ph of peroxide is between 1.3-2.6.... kinda putting the cart before the horse maybe? Starting with an acid, and rinsing with an alkaline? Not how I was taught....
 

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Yeah its an ol school 1 step rinse from pre prespray days, hence why I run peroxide boosted prespray. The ammonia is pH 9.5 at dilution neutralises to 6.5... not an everday practice by any means but pretty much the same as accelerating a peroxide based spotter
 

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My question is "although I know the ammonia rinse is self neutralising is it capable of neutralising the prespray?" Visually it works and I've had no complaints just not sure on the potential for premature resoiling?

Thorough rinsing generally removes any residues that contribute to re-soiling. Improper rinsing is the main cause of re-soiling by not removing enough residues. Alkalinity and acidity have often been blamed for re-soiling. In actuality, some fragrances, solvents and surfactants are the primary culprits. D'limonene is one solvent that is hard to rinse out and its residues will attract soils. Some fragrances use essential oils which act like d'limonene in attracting soils. We limit the amount of fragrance in our encapsulates to limit any re-soiling tendency. Some surfactants leave a sticky residue (we avoid these in soft surface formulas) that will attract soils. Some alkalines and acids are hygroscopic which can slow down dry time. We had one spotter fail a re-soil test after 24 hours because of hygroscopic material, even though we had sold for years without any reported instance of re-soiling. Generally it is during the dry time when re-soiling occurs for alkalinity or acidity. This dry time will vary according to the climate of the area.

We always test for re-soiling residues in all of our formulas for carpet. Some formulas we will add a polymer to limit re-soiling. Most carpet pre-sprays and rinses in the market today when used according to instructions will not promote re-soiling. However, if you do not follow label directions and add too much fragrance, citrus booster or stronger than recommended dilution of a pre-spray then you could cause a problem. If you follow these concoctions with poor rinsing, then the result is often premature re-soiling.

We built our spotters to remove stains and our directions include thorough rinsing and the addition of Spot Stop which limits wicking and limits the impacting of any remaining re-soil issues. These can cause re-soiling if the directions are not followed.
 

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Biggest problem we face this part of the world is we'd be lucky if we've got access to 5% of products you have stateside.
I asked a local distributor if they were going to bring in any of Bridgepoints woolsafe line?? Just use Flex its the best just follow with there Ice!
 

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Let me know the distributor you use and I will pass on your request to our salesman who works with New Zealand.
 

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