Can we stop using the word "proprietary" on the parts of these truck mounts?

[BIG WOOD]

It's an excuse for having a truck mount from a manufacturer that's too cheap to offer a product that actually lets you lay down your tool without the machine burning itself in half.

They throw that word around like it's a sin to have a few sensors on it to help it run smooth and not like a riding lawn mower. A well designed truckmount doesn't have proprietary parts. It has parts that work.

Yes, Prochem was an idiot for putting that computer screen on their truckmount. And they corrected the issue. Just an example.

When I googled Proprietary parts, the first thing that pulled up was a description of bicycle parts.
search


Ok, I'm done fussing. Have fun barking back at me

 

[Mikey P]

Is this a half assed I Hate Texas rant?



everybody hates Texas, even Texans, they're just too dumb to realize it

 

[BIG WOOD]

Maybe

Just reading some older threads, and that word is used so much for those who are making excuses for buying their garage tm.

 

[Mark Saiger]

Just be thankful you don't wake up freezing your ass off in the morning due to proprietary parts for a furnace.

Service tech on the way but crap... It's cold! I hate winter.

Might be having to cough up money for heat exchanger or burners this morning

But my Butler is running... Now.... And that I could write a story about what's going to happen next with my local GM dealership

 

[Dolly Llama]

They throw that word around like it's a sin to have a few sensors on it

not a "sin", just more "stuff" to go wrong
...more "stuff" on a TM, the more stuff can fail

I'll bet a lot of those parts could be sourced elsewhere with suitable, (if not better), or exact same

when I think "proprietary" I think a blower or pump with a one off output shaft size, HX'ers etc
Didn't HM have a blower shaft size/config spec'd exclusively peculiar to them?



BTW.....

Is this rant DAT about justifying your large lease payment for an over large and complicated TM?





the beauty in the "bare bones" TMs is most BD's with a shred of mechanical aptitude can work on them and source parts more easily

the BigBaller TMs not so easy for the average guy
which means down time til it's out of the shop $437 dollars later.....


..L.T.A.

 

[BIG WOOD]

Most of these new guys in this business don’t even know how to adjust their hg on their blower, whether it’s a garage made or name brand. So I think a bare bones has no more simplicity over a name brand. It’s the operator, not the engineer

 

[Desk Jockey]

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Just be thankful you don't wake up freezing your ass off in the morning due to proprietary parts for a furnace.

Service tech on the way but crap... It's cold! I hate winter.

Might be having to cough up money for heat exchanger or burners this morning

But my Butler is running... Now.... And that I could write a story about what's going to happen next with my local GM dealership

If I lived where you do I'd buy a used Phoenix Firebird for just those instances. You have enough trucks and property that might need the portable heat.

My daughters furnace went out last year and they borrowed the small Compact one. Ran it for 6 weeks until they settled on an a company and date.

The big ones will run you out they put out so much heat, but you can easily hook up a thermostat with no tools needed. Just a thought.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Most of these new guys in this business don’t even know how to adjust their hg on their blower, whether it’s a garage made or name brand. So I think a bare bones has no more simplicity over a name brand. It’s the operator, not the engineer

Maybe they shouldn't be in this business. Seriously if they aren't able to accomplish such simple tasks, how will they ever manage t bye difficult stuff?

 

[Jimmy L]

My beef is taking a common part and not finding a part number on it and then the dist charges you double or triple what you could have bought off the shelf locally

 

[bob vawter]

Matt...i tried tellin you this...
but NOOOO...you were a Mr KNOW-IT -ALL

now we have TWO here!

 

[Dolly Llama]

So I think a bare bones has no more simplicity over a name brand.

might be a southern thing
ya'll are slower walking, talking and thinking in general

simpler is just simply easier
you don't need as much diagnostic expertise or have as many knuckle busting parts to replace ...when "upgrades" are sent out


I'm not making an argument for or against
just pointing out facts are facts


..L.T.A.

 

[bob vawter]

DANG....got 'em BOTH in one thread....!

 

[Dolly Llama]

the

DANG....got 'em BOTH in one thread

the difference is, one is, the other 'un ain't

say it
SAAAAYYYY IIITTTT

.L.T.A.

 

[Cleanworks]

I'm curious if anyone else has a good experience with Cobb's units besides Jack Zerkie? I am intrigued by the way the air flow from the blower is supposed to keep the unit from over heating. Does it really work? Can you put the wand down for 10 minutes and not have the temp over 300 degrees before you trigger it again?

 

[Nomad74]

It's too early for this whiny garbage. I think i'll go make a cup of coffee using my proprietary Keurig cups.

 

[Mikey P]

It's too early for this whiny garbage. I think i'll go make a cup of coffee using my proprietary Keurig cups.

thats some shittyass coffee.

 

[Mikey P]

ya'll are slower walking, talking and thinking in general

and thats coming from someone hatched out of Ohio..


Burn!

 

[Mark Saiger]

If I lived where you do I'd buy a used Phoenix Firebird for just those instances. You have enough trucks and property that might need the portable heat.

My daughters furnace went out last year and they borrowed the small Compact one. Ran it for 6 weeks until they settled on an a company and date.

The big ones will run you out they put out so much heat, but you can easily hook up a thermostat with no tools needed. Just a thought.

Had a couple of portable heaters yet in the shop.

I have those going.

We need a new heat exchanger but it is on a recall warranty.

The company will pay for parts and four hours labor... Which is pretty nice to hear for a twelve year old furnace.

We have our gas fireplace going and the new section of the house has in floor heat... But it is on an electric metering system that they can shut down the electric to the pump on peak times... And of course that can be on cold days like right now

So I have that cranked up to heat the slab.

My shop... I installed 8 foot electric base board heaters as back up for a situation such as this and it is set to go on if hits 50 degrees. And we have a large red light in the window that will notify us also if the shop goes down to 55 degrees. The Schnoodle barks at it if it goes off.

Hopefully tomorrow they will be able to fix the furnace

 

[Desk Jockey]

Can't beat that! Daughter and son-inlaw spent 4k last winter on a new furnace and install.

 

[Jack Zipper Zerkie]

I'm curious if anyone else has a good experience with Cobb's units besides Jack Zerkie? I am intrigued by the way the air flow from the blower is supposed to keep the unit from over heating. Does it really work? Can you put the wand down for 10 minutes and not have the temp over 300 degrees before you trigger it again?

I had a white magic & Hydramaster with bells& whistles and don't miss them. The WM had water sensors that were set for water temp in Mass cold 45 deg water. Here in south Fl. the water is 75-80 deg most of the year. I by passed them and it helped. My cheap Cobby just simple like me yesterday the water temp pegged out at 260 and just kept running was working on a loft with a upper floor no problem. Life is easy for the old guy thanks Cobby. jz

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Bane used industry standard parts.

However they took the component identifying tags and labels OFF and even sanded off the rivets that had attached them. Then they gave these components new "names" and gobble de gook specifications to obscure the facts.

 

[Jimmy L]

I agree Lee that is exactly what I am talking about.

 

[Cleanworks]

I had a white magic & Hydramaster with bells& whistles and don't miss them. The WM had water sensors that were set for water temp in Mass cold 45 deg water. Here in south Fl. the water is 75-80 deg most of the year. I by passed them and it helped. My cheap Cobby just simple like me yesterday the water temp pegged out at 260 and just kept running was working on a loft with a upper floor no problem. Life is easy for the old guy thanks Cobby. jz

Do you have no worries about leaving the wand down for 10 minutes?

 

[Small town janitorial]

I work with engine driven welders fairly often, they are 50-250 ft away from where you are working like truckmounts. They have similar horsepower. They rarely have problems. I ran one with a bluetooth controller thingy that you could have in your pocket and adjust amps, volts ect from a long ways away. Made me think to myself, why cant truck mounts use a remote controller to idle down and stuff?

 

[Desk Jockey]

Prochem has E Idle. Wasn't worth it for us, but we run two man crews. 10 minutes? I'd just shut it down.

 

[Hack Attack]

I think a bare bones has no more simplicity over a name brand.

don't like bare bones? You must be edumacated..

K.I.S.S.

 

[Dolly Llama]

and thats coming from someone hatched out of Ohio

the inbreds are in the southern part of state by Da Rivah ...that boarders WV and KY

I'm convinced if there were no canoes, boats or bridges on the Ohio River , all of Ohio would be smArt


..L.T.A.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

The "proprietary" HM blowers just involve some switching of standard blower parts.

 

[KevinD]

Bane used industry standard parts.

However they took the component identifying tags and labels OFF and even sanded off the rivets that had attached them. Then they gave these components new "names" and gobble de gook specifications to obscure the facts.

My first Hydramaster anything that had a part number on it was hit with a grinder

 

[Desk Jockey]

lol