Damn...ran out of Red Vanish!

[DevilThomas]

Ran out of red vanish ...and tomorrow have a bunch of red stains..looks like kool-aid...to remediate...

Have live streamer and iron available.

Any suggestions on a easily available product to use?

Any "home brew " suggestions?

"Is there a chemist in the house?"

 

[Lee Stockwell]

No home brew is going to match Steve's one-part product. It's the best in our experience.

There's been plenty already posted on the recipe for the two-part product clones.

Thanks,
Lee

 

[Doug Cox]

I think Lee works for the manufacturers. lol

50/50 of Hydrgen Peroxide and Non-Sudsing Ammonia.

 

[Farenheit251]

Many use clear amonia from the grocery store and I've used it in a pinch. Not as effective and some risk of color loss.

 

[DevilThomas]

I think Lee works for the manufacturers. lol

50/50 of Hydrgen Peroxide and Non-Sudsing Ammonia.

Thank you Doug...

 

[DevilThomas]

Two local members just PM'ed me with offers for Red One and Red Vanish....man... you gotta love this Board..

Thank you!

 

[tim]

You can also use a coffee stain remover or powdered peroxide with ammonia. Ran out of Red Vanish and tried it, worked like a charm!

 

[Lee Stockwell]

I've never shilled for any mfg's chemicals. However I'd rather see someone look in the "goldmine" for questions like this. A lot of misinformation gets posted otherwise, most of it usually harmless.

Red removers are usually either oxidizer + base accelerant or reducer + acid accelerant. Heat speeds up and intensifies the reaction (sometimes too much).

much more....

 

[sweendogg]

Most two part red removers are sodium metabisulfate and amonia. And of course some added proprietary chemistry. But remember most red removers for synthetic dyes is a reducer boostd with alkaline.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

David have you checked the pH of each? The reduction combinations (like Red Relief) are usually around 6.0 and the oxidizing combinations (like Stain Magic) are around 9.0+.

Thanks,
Lee

ps there are many variations including buffers stabilizers etc.

 

[Shawn Forsythe]

I...A lot of misinformation gets posted ....

This thread takes the prize.

The man indicates he's out of a reducing agent, and half the responses are for an oxidizer concoction. Whoa!

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Shawn do you have a special offer on Sulphur Dioxide this month?

I'm thinking of starting a cooking show.

 

[everfresh1]

[quote="Lee Stockwell":2fc5e1pd]I...A lot of misinformation gets posted ....

This thread takes the prize.

The man indicates he's out of a reducing agent, and half the responses are for an oxidizer concoction. Whoa![/quote:2fc5e1pd]

I thought it was a reducing agent but isn't htere ammonia mixed with it?

 

[Lee Stockwell]

viewtopic.php?f=86&t=12854&p=137399&hilit=sulfur+dioxide#p137399

 

[sweendogg]

David have you checked the pH of each? The reduction combinations (like Red Relief) are usually around 6.0 and the oxidizing combinations (like Stain Magic) are around 9.0+.

Thanks,
Lee

ps there are many variations including buffers stabilizers etc.

Sorry lee for some reason i was thinking Red one! Which is exactly as I stated.. well ok Ammonia Hydroxide not pure amonia, and sodium metabisulfate. (and stinks horribly!)

Yeah most reducers will use an acidic catalyst like you pointed out.

 

[sweendogg]

I was also thinking about this combo which red dye stain remover is simply sodium metabisulfate!

http://www.masterblend.net/index.php?op ... &Itemid=72

 

[alazo1]

Where do you get non sudsing ammonia?. Is the regular stuff ok?.

Albert

 

[sweendogg]

Albert, sudsing will work but for times when you want it in Stain magic, regual amonia is a self neutralizing agent so both the hydrogern peroxide and amonia would neutralize to regular H20 and won't leave a residue.

 

[ACE]

Willie posted something awhile back about being able to buy sodium metabisulfate over the counter at the grocery store. He said it’s sold as potato whitener. You could give that a try boosted it with some acetic acid and heat. Does anyone else know of a readily available reducer?

 

[tim]

Shawn, he never asked for another reducing agent, he asked what else he could use to take out koolaid stains. I use a reducing agent but when I run out and need a quick fix, it's nice to know what else on the truck will work until you can get more.