There ain't no dents in my van buddy nor do I drink. My van ain't set up for installing anyhow. I bet it looks better than yours being a 2007 :wink: . I only know how to install because I've been in that business for like 8-9 years mostly in sales and my in laws started their business installing. And if anyone knows how installers are you would know you would have to install some when they decide to skip town or just not show up because they don't feel like it. Anyhow I don't do it by myself (not enough money in it for one man). Last week we installed almost 2000 sq ft of vct, 620 yds of cgd carpet, cove base trim for all of it, transtions, and moved the furniture (all of this for schools). We did it with 5 men. Our installers couldn't do a job like that so we did it. And I now have got a foot hold in cleaning the schools too. I have 2,000 sq ft to do next week and I if I remember right 1500 the next week and if I do a good job I may get more.