Dreamweaver or Web based for website?

Jack May

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I posted this in the clean room but it's probably also suited to this room.

Following on from my website saga last week, it seems the weakness is the fact I'm still building with DW8. (approx 4-5 years old.)

My IT guy wants to upgrade me to a webbased editor but I'm a bit sus of that due to the fact they never used to be reliable in maintaining layout etc when uploaded. What are they like now? The software name is Joomla if anyone knows about it.)

Anyone got any suggestions? Do I upgrade to the latest Dreamweaver CS4 or go with the Joomla? I've got access to academic versions if needed and so the upgrade cost is not really an issue. In fact it looks likely that I may pick up a copy of CS4 Master in lieu of a trade off cleaning after a large two storey water loss. My client has just upgraded from Windows to Mac and also wants additional work done on her leather and then a full house clean of the entire home after all the reconstruction work is completed.

My website hosting is $20/week and the Joomla software is included in that price if I swing across.

I like the freedom of building and maintaining my own site so suggestions and referrals to other techs is not really what I'm after thanks.

John
 

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Thanks for your honest reply Wayne.

John

PS Dad is still 'deciding'. he has located a second hand CDS unit and looks set to enter the industry. I get the feeling he may just move and design his own stuff, like he did last time round.
 
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DW (most likely) has nothing to do with your website being hacked. I would first look at the host server.
You shouldnt need the newest version of DW unless it has features you desire that are not in your current version.

It is my opinion that (properly coded and optimized) HTML websites (like those that can be built with Dreamweaver) usually rank better in the search engines than a CMS (Content Management System) like Joomla, (especially the default version).

We offer several CMS type solutions including Joomla and our business hosting is only $20 MONTHLY (Joomla, Drupal, Geeklog, Mambo, PHP Nuke, phpWCMS, phpWebSite, Post-Nuke, Siteframe, TYPO3, XOOPS, Zikula) Also have DIY packages starting as little as $4.95 MONTHLY.

Do your homework before choosing a CMS (or other) platform to build on! Here is a list of some of the solutions we offer.....
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Blogs:

b2evolution : A blog script featuring multiple blogs, categories/sub-categories, skins, search function, multiple languages, search engines friendly URLs.
http://b2evolution.net

Nucleus : A powerful blog script featuring multiple blogs, multiple authors, drafts and future posts, bookmarklets.
http://nucleuscms.org

pMachineFree : This is a features limited version of pMachinePro. You need a license, in order to use pMachine Free on commercial or profit oriented websites
http://www.pmachine.com

Wordpress: WordPress is a personal publishing tool with focus on aesthetics and featuring cross-blog tool, password protected posts, importing, typographical niceties, multiple authors, bookmarklets.
http://wordpress.org


Content Management Systems - Content Management Tools

Joomla! is one of the most powerful Open Source Content Management Systems. It is used all over the world for everything from simple websites to complex corporate applications. Joomla! is easy to install, simple to manage, and reliable.
http://www.joomla.org/

Drupal : An advanced content management system with collaborative book, search engines friendly URLs, online help, roles, full content search, site watching, threaded comments, version control, blogging, news aggregator.
http://drupal.org

Geeklog : A content management tool with a wide range of modules.
http://www.geeklog.net

Mambo Open Source : A professional level yet easy to use Content Management System featuring inline WYSIWYG content editors, newsfeeds, syndicated news, banners, mailing users, links manager, statistics, content archiving, date based content, 20 languages, modules and components.
http://mamboserver.com

PHP-Nuke: One of the most popular community-based content management tool with a big choice of modules and languages.
http://www.phpnuke.org

phpWebSite: Very powerful Content Management System with document manager, announcements, menu manager, photo album, block maker, FAQ, web pages maker, polls, information categorizer, calendar, link manager, form generator.
http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu

Post-Nuke : A Content Management System with focus on flexibility and security. A big variety of modules and blocks makes this CMS an allround content management tool.
http://www.postnuke.com

Siteframe: A straightforward content-management system designed for rapid deployment of community-based websites. Nice-looking templates, oriented toward document-sharing, clean interface.
http://siteframe.org

Xoops: A very popular advanced portal content management tool.
http://www.xoops.org

phpWCMS: phpwcms is an Open Source web content management system released under the GNU General Public License. You can use it for free. phpwcms is optimized for fast and easy setup and works on any standard webserver platform that supports PHP/MySQL and was tested successfully on Windows 2000/XP, MacOSX and LINUX. phpwcms is perfect for professional, public and private users. It is very easy to learn and gives you the flexibility to separate layout and content. Lots of powerful but simple implemented features
http://www.phpwcms.de

Wiki
PhpWiki: A WikiWikiWeb is a web site where anyone can edit the pages through an HTML form. Linking is done automatically on the server side; all pages are stored in a database.
http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net

TikiWiki: Tiki CMS/Groupware (aka TikiWiki) is a powerful open-source Content Management System (CMS) and Groupware that can be used to create all sorts of Web applications, Sites, Portals, Intranets and Extranets. TikiWiki also works great as a Web-based collaboration tool.
http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_articles.php

Customer Service Software - Customer Support:

Crafty Syntax Live Help: A Live Help chat system featuring monitor your visitors, proactively open a chat session, multiple chat sessions, referer tracking, page view tracking, multiple operators, canned responses/images/URLs, multiple departments each with different icons, leave a message.
http://www.cslh.com/

Help Center Live: Very powerful all-in-one help center including Live Help, Support Tickets and FAQ. Features include unlimited operators/departments, monitor visitors, initiate chat, collect visitor's information, track visitor's footprint, autosave chat transcripts, canned messages, leave a message, auto-assign tickets to operators, unlimited FAQ topics.
http://www.helpcenterlive.com

osTicket: A Support Tickets system featuring email piping, pop3 login, unlimited email addresses, admin/staff/user panels, avoid autoresponder loops, limit maximun tickets user can have opened, accept attachments and limit size, pager alerts for admin.
http://www.osticket.com/server

PHP Support Tickets : A simple, one-admin Support Tickets system featuring self-registering, emailing to admin, attachments.
http://www.phpsupporttickets.com

Support Logic Helpdesk : A Support Tickets system featuring multiple email addresses, admin/staff/user panels, canned responses, HTML tags support, email limit on a per user/day basis, attachments.
http://www.support-logic.com/index.php

Support Services Manager http://www.sheddnet.net


Discussion Boards:

Invision Board:
http://www.invisionpower.com

phpBB3: A widely-popular open-source bulletin-board package, works well, simple user interface and admin panel, clean look, scales well, and can be customized.
http://www.phpbb.com

E-Commerce:

CubeCart: An easy to use yet powerful shopping cart featuring unlimited categories and products, multiple payment gateways, downloadable products. The design is very easy to modify.
http://cubecart.com

OS Commerce: A power-user shopping cart with a big variety of modules and support of almost every payment gateway. A big developers community is ready to offer custom solutions depending on your needs.
http://oscommerce.com


Image Galleries:

4Images Gallery : An Image Gallery system featuring unlimited categories/subcategories, web-based and FTP images upload, auto-thumbnails, comments, send a picture, rate a picture, random pictures, extensive administration panel.
http://www.4homepages.de

Coppermine Photo Gallery: An Image Gallery system featuring categories and albums, thumbnails and intermediate size pics, search feature, new and random pictures, user management (private galleries, groups), user comments, e-cards feature, slideshow viewer.
http://coppermine.sourceforge.net

Gallery: An Image Gallery system featuring albums within albums, thumbnailing specific picture area, captions, rotate, reorder pictures, album-based attributes, album mirroring.
http://gallery.menalto.com


Mailing List:

PHPlist: A powerful mailing list featuring multiple mailing lists and attachments.
http://www.tincan.co.uk


Project Management - Project Tracking:

dotProject: Project Management featuring companies, projects, tasks (with Gantt charts), forums, files, calendar, contacts, tickets/helpdesk, language support, user/module permissions, themes.
http://www.dotproject.net

PHProjekt : Project Management featuring optional group system, privileges, calendar, contacts, time card, projects, chat, forum, request tracker, mail client, files, notes, bookmarks, to-do list, reminder, voting, language support.
http://www.phprojekt.com

FAQMasterFlex: Unlimited categories/questions/answers, web-based administration.
http://www.technetguru.com/faqmasterflex.php

Moodle: A Course Management System designed to help educators create quality online courses. Available in currently 34 languages, featuring WYSIWYG HTML Editor, teacher has full control over all settings for a course, flexible array of course activities (Forums, Journals, Quizzes, Resources, Choices, Surveys, Assignments, Chats, Workshops), user logging and tracking, mail integration and much more.
http://moodle.org


Other Scripts:

Open-Realty: Real Estate listing system featuring attachments, flexible search, template system, Yahoo Maps interface.
http://www.open-realty.org

phpAdsNew: A highly professional complete ad server featuring different types of ads, display based on keywords, zones, hour of the day, day of the week, extensive statistics, client statistics.
http://phpadsnew.com

PHPauction : The GPL version of PHPauction featuring email notification of bids, attachments, reserve price, minimum bids, standard and dutch auctions, bid history, send auction to a friend, highest bids, auctions ending soon.
http://www.phpauction.org

phpFormGenerator: A form generator featuring up to 100 form fields, all kind of input fields incl. file upload, customizable fields attributes, send submitted data to an email address or store them in a database, admin panel.
http://phpformgen.sourceforge.net

WebCalendar: A very powerful webcalendar featuring private and public calendars.
http://webcalendar.sourceforge.net


Polls and Survey systems
Advanced Poll : Polling system with powerful administration tool. It features: multiple polls, templates, unlimited options, multi-language support, IP-Logging, IP-Locking, cookie support, comment feature, vote expire feature, random poll support and more. Supports text file and mySQL database. http://www.proxy2.de/scripts.php

PHPSurveyor : Develop, publish and collect responses to surveys. Display surveys as single questions, group by group or all in one page or use a data entry system for administration of paper-based versions of the survey. PHP Surveyor can produce 'branching' surveys (set conditions on whether individual questions will display), can vary the look and feel of your survey through a templating system, and can provide basic statistical analysis of your survey results.
http://phpsurveyor.sourceforge.net

phpESP : PHP scripts to let non-technical users create surveys, administer surveys, gather results, view statistics. All managed online after database initialization. MySQL database backend.
http://phpesp.sourceforge.net
 

Jack May

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Thanks Mark.

I did a typo and pay $20/month sorry.

I'll have a chat with my IT guy and talk to him and see what happens.

He is adamant that it's not the server, by virtue of the fact mine is the only website affected both times.

I may just do a bit of shopping around and see what other local hosting options there are.

John
 

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Well, I feel somewhat vindicated now...

The IT guy as he was telling me about Joomla, suggested I check out a few sites, including one of his own to see where they hit on ranking and how they look.

Brought up another of his, not the one he intended accidentally, and KaBOOM, AVG took over and warned me of a Trogan virus on HIS site :lol:

Well, now that has him stumped, but he's now waiting for his primary hosting company (he's a reseller) to get back to him.

www.vrc.co.nz but give it a few days first. One thing I did notice was the lack of uniformity of spacing when viewed in IE7. Lines crimping over others, not even spaces etc etc. Pretty poor site looks if you're asking me.

So, I've updated my patches and my site is going back up hopefully tonight if I get home in time as DW8 is on my home computer.

And I'm reluctant to move to Joomla now after seeing his efforts, although he did say it wasn't a site he normally sends traffic to, and as such, it deosn't get any attention or fixing of problems.

John
 

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Why not move over to godaddy? I moved over last weekend after about 9 years with ValueWeb.

After my first two mom & pop hosts left me hanging I resolved to stick with the big players. I suspect godaddy would nip a problem like this in the bud before it ever got started.
 

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I use Godaddy for all my hosting...no problems as of yet, knock on wood (knocking on my crotch of course...it's early).
 
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We've never had our own GoDaddy hosting account, but have worked with several clients who did.

We inherited GoDaddy as the website host here when we were asked to take over as webmasters. As I understand it there were problems before we came aboard. We moved Mikeysboard.

I defer the question to Mikey as I dont want to appear to be bashing GoDaddy as we also offer hosting.
 

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I just moved over to godaddy. From what I can see they're innovative, responsive and eager to help anytime you have a question. I went from spending an easy 20 minutes-plus on hold to get an answer from ValueWeb (now HostWay) to typically under two with godaddy. I've worked with a few clients on godaddy as well. So far I'm nothing but impressed. Unlike the other hosts I've used, godaddy doesn't seem comfortable in the "business as usual" mode of operation.

I suspect Mikey's not much of a technical guy when it comes to web stuff. Not understanding what all this web stuff means, in and of itself, is the root of a many an internet-based nightmare.
 

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