encap or HWE on astro turf?

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about 5000 sq ft of astroturf where Dogs play and train for dog shows. Many urine stains. Ive always HWE.
Thinking about Encap with Odyssey and Saiger Code red oxy. encap.
However, i'm concerned about skin irritation for the dogs.
 

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about 5000 sq ft of astroturf where Dogs play and train for dog shows. Many urine stains. Ive always HWE.
Thinking about Encap with Odyssey and Saiger Code red oxy. encap.
However, i'm concerned about skin irritation for the dogs.

Tests show that peroxide rapidly degrades when exposed to the atmosphere, and there is likely little risk.

I would consult with the product's manufacturer regarding the effect that any of the remaining ingredients might have.
 
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Can you tell what’s what? Is a combo the way to go? One size don’t always fit all.
Id rather not clean it twice.
Fly Matt out to do that one for you
and miss all the fun.!? 💪
Tests show that peroxide rapidly degrades when exposed to the atmosphere, and there is likely little risk.

I would consult with the product's manufacturer regarding the effect that any of the remaining ingredients might have.
yeah- i dont trust chem. salesman to tell me the truth.
What did Ivan (Procyon) die from again? wasnt he rather young?
didnt her drink his chem to prove it was safe?
 
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Id rather not clean it twice.

and miss all the fun.!? 💪

yeah- i dont trust chem. salesman to tell me the truth.
What did Ivan (Procyon) die from again? wasnt he rather young?
didnt her drink his chem to prove it was safe?

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What percentage of the urine has settled below the "grass mat", would you guess...
It probably has that "urine proof" white mat attached underneath that looks like the mr clean white foam pad.

With animals getting right back on it shortly after cleaning, it's useless to try to remove the urine from that padding if it's in it. So the chemistry is most important in flushing it out. And "flushing" is the key since you need to go beyond what the IICRC tells you on how to clean and treat urine in these circumstances
 

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What percentage of the urine has settled below the "grass mat", would you guess...
The client claims there were many urine deposits. yet the black light and Urine "buzzer" found only a few.
The client uses their mini extractor to clean up the spots quickly.

I treat the entire AstroTurf like the entire area is urine-soaked.
In the past, I had 1-2 helpers, But this time, they will be on vacation-- so I'll be doing it solo.- That's why I was thinking about cutting corners.
 
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If I were cleaning plastic, I would just apply citrus. The real problem is beneath the strands of plastic, which would take an immense amount of treatment to rectify. If you did acid UPT, acid rinse, flood with peroxide, 20 minutes and acid rinse, or enzymes, 20 minutes and flush with acid rinse, you may perform a miracle. The issue is getting enough product to get to ALL of the contamination. The customer is dreaming about a cheap in-and-out one swipe with your "magic" truck mount that cures every carpet problem, but the cost of performing the miracle they expect will probably be more than they are willing to pay for.
 

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If I were cleaning plastic, I would just apply citrus. The real problem is beneath the strands of plastic, which would take an immense amount of treatment to rectify. If you did acid UPT, acid rinse, flood with peroxide, 20 minutes and acid rinse, or enzymes, 20 minutes and flush with acid rinse, you may perform a miracle. The issue is getting enough product to get to ALL of the contamination. The customer is dreaming about a cheap in-and-out one swipe with your "magic" truck mount that cures every carpet problem, but the cost of performing the miracle they expect will probably be more than they are willing to pay for.
We do 3-5 swipes + 2 more extraction passes.
 
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