Intro to Encap Cleaning

[Matt Perretti]

Hello Fellow cleaners
I manage a few carpet cleaners at our company Boldens Cleaning and Restoration services out of Noblesville Indiana and for about 10 years I ran a van my self and I have never been introduced to encap or "pad cleaning" and I must admit I am beyond intrigued at some of the results you guys can get and hearing some of the best in the industry preach these methods has me thinking I have no choice but to slowly train my self along with my guys and introduce this style of cleaning into our day to day... If anyone has any recomnedations for a pad machine and the best products to use I would greatly apprecaite the input...

 

[Mikey P]

Hello Fellow cleaners
I manage a few carpet cleaners at our company Boldens Cleaning and Restoration services out of Noblesville Indiana and for about 10 years I ran a van my self and I have never been introduced to encap or "pad cleaning" and I must admit I am beyond intrigued at some of the results you guys can get and hearing some of the best in the industry preach these methods has me thinking I have no choice but to slowly train my self along with my guys and introduce this style of cleaning into our day to day... If anyone has any recomnedations for a pad machine and the best products to use I would greatly apprecaite the input...

First you have to decide if you want to actually remove soil or just grind it in and hope that the polymer and soil vacuums out later?


I prefer the op method that utilizes various pad types to agitate and extract soil from the carpet but you do have to do some laundry with this process.

And you would want designated washer and dryer set up at your facility in order to do so.

I endorse and sell the Trinity line of op machines.
I'd be more than happy to talk to you over the phone about their pros and cons

Next April we will be in Indianapolis cleaning a very large Ronald McDonald House along with a couple days of education and while you probably don't want to wait that long it'll be a excellent opportunity for you and some team members to come get your hands dirty and learn from the very best.

I have time later today, Pacific Standard Time if you'd like to get on the phone


775-552-5429

 

[Cleanworks]

Hello Fellow cleaners
I manage a few carpet cleaners at our company Boldens Cleaning and Restoration services out of Noblesville Indiana and for about 10 years I ran a van my self and I have never been introduced to encap or "pad cleaning" and I must admit I am beyond intrigued at some of the results you guys can get and hearing some of the best in the industry preach these methods has me thinking I have no choice but to slowly train my self along with my guys and introduce this style of cleaning into our day to day... If anyone has any recomnedations for a pad machine and the best products to use I would greatly apprecaite the input...

The 2 best machines in my experience are the Trinity Phoenix and the HOS Sprayborg. Both well made, rugged machines that spray and scrub in one motion. The key to encap cleaning is good vacuuming. Remove as much dry soil as possible. Then use a premium encap solution along with the right pads. I usually use Saiger's Code Red of Encaps which has a peroxide component to it. It literally wipes out coffee, water and many other organic stains. I use the Tops spotter for greasier stains. I have done mainly hwe for over 40 years and am converting the majority of my commercial accounts to vlm. I get great results and make more money per hour. Much more.

 

[bob vawter]

The 2 best machines in my experience are the Trinity Phoenix and the HOS Sprayborg. Both well made, rugged machines that spray and scrub in one motion. The key to encap cleaning is good vacuuming. Remove as much dry soil as possible. Then use a premium encap solution along with the right pads. I usually use Saiger's Code Red of Encaps which has a peroxide component to it. It literally wipes out coffee, water and many other organic stains. I use the Tops spotter for greasier stains. I have done mainly hwe for over 40 years and am converting the majority of my commercial accounts to vlm. I get great results and make more money per hour. Much more.

Wow...an April 25 Mikeyfest?????
In Indy?....

 

[Cleanworks]

First you have to decide if you want to actually remove soil or just grind it in and hope that the polymer and soil vacuums out later?


I prefer the op method that utilizes various pad types to agitate and extract soil from the carpet but you do have to do some laundry with this process.

And you would want designated washer and dryer set up at your facility in order to do so.

I endorse and sell the Trinity line of op machines.
I'd be more than happy to talk to you over the phone about their pros and cons

Next April we will be in Indianapolis cleaning a very large Ronald McDonald House along with a couple days of education and while you probably don't want to wait that long it'll be a excellent opportunity for you and some team members to come get your hands dirty and learn from the very best.

I have time later today, Pacific Standard Time if you'd like to get on the phone


775-552-5429

I have a washing machine at the shop but just air dry my pads.

 

[Sierra Clean Care]

I’m doing 9000 sqft tomorrow. Tool of choice is going to be my TOPS Phoenix. I’ve done the same job every spring and fall for the last 5 years. I used to use my Cimex, it just didn’t work as well as the TOPS.
Chem of choice is DS2 spiked W/peroxide.
Lots of coffee stains.

LOVE the fact you can clean and reuse the pads…

 

[Kenny Hayes]

Two things, are you using gray pads with the Cimex? With 9k, you can definitely use both!!

 

[Sierra Clean Care]

Two things, are you using gray pads with the Cimex? With 9k, you can definitely use both!!

Yes to the grey pads.

The thing(s)I really like about the Cimex;

You can clean both forwards and backwards.

Large solution tank

Ease of use

Higher production rate

Things I really like about the OP;

Better grinding of really dirty traffic lanes: going ‘wheels up’

Easy to switch from a regular solution to a ‘hot’ mix for dirty areas

Better cleaning, actually removing soil

Ease of switching pads from microfibre to gorilla to glads

REUSABLE PADS- clean, dry, and back on the shelf for the next contract

 

[Kenny Hayes]

Did you getter d u n? I got my house d u n, you sorry piece

 

[Sierra Clean Care]

Did you getter d u n? I got my house d u n, you sorry piece

Of course it’s DONE…

My helper on the vacuum, me on the OP…

Started @ 6:30 yesterday morning.

This ‘office’ has very unique operation hrs.

Its not when can we fit them into the schedule, its when can they fit us into theirs…

 

[Kenny Hayes]

I do a drug manufacturer (legal) that it’s that way. You have to do it when it’s fully operational. The Cimex is perfect for that since there’s no spray. Everyone just moves out of my way as I get to em. Even though it’s a pain, it’s a win win.

 

[Sierra Clean Care]

I do a drug manufacturer (legal) that it’s that way. You have to do it when it’s fully operational. The Cimex is perfect for that since there’s no spray. Everyone just moves out of my way as I get to em. Even though it’s a pain, it’s a win win.

This place is very legal. It has to do with law enforcement of the highest order.

 

[Kenny Hayes]

Yep, had one of those too. Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics.

 

[Johnny]

Chem of choice is DS2 spiked W/peroxide.

Ricky sez don't spike DS2 with peroxide cuz it prevents encap polymer from forming.

I added peroxide for many years with good results. Never noticed a prob.

Last couple years been pretreating areas with just peroxide in advance of DS2 application. R sez that's better.

 

[Kenny Hayes]

Why don’t you just use Hydrox?

 

[Cleanworks]

This place is very legal. It has to do with law enforcement of the highest order.

God's house?

 

[Sierra Clean Care]

God's house?

Pretty close. I signed a gag/ non disclosure order.

Enough said.

 

[Kenny Hayes]

Oh Lordy!

 

[Sierra Clean Care]

Oh Lordy!

Playing by the rules.

 

[Kenny Hayes]

There’s only one that would require that, I think. Like you’re gonna see something

 

[Kenny Hayes]

You probably couldn’t drag a truckmount hose in and leave the door open. You told me enough to know who We actually have one here 3 miles from my house. Surrey Hills Oklahoma. In the middle of a golfing community. It’s crazy.

 

[Meter Maid]

I’ll believe in the “straight encap” method when someone can show me crystallized encapsulate in a vacuum canister.

Until then, I’ll use absorbent pads.

 

[Mikey P]

Wow...an April 25 Mikeyfest?????
In Indy?....

April 3-5

 

[Matt Perretti]

First you have to decide if you want to actually remove soil or just grind it in and hope that the polymer and soil vacuums out later?


I prefer the op method that utilizes various pad types to agitate and extract soil from the carpet but you do have to do some laundry with this process.

And you would want designated washer and dryer set up at your facility in order to do so.

I endorse and sell the Trinity line of op machines.
I'd be more than happy to talk to you over the phone about their pros and cons

Next April we will be in Indianapolis cleaning a very large Ronald McDonald House along with a couple days of education and while you probably don't want to wait that long it'll be a excellent opportunity for you and some team members to come get your hands dirty and learn from the very best.

I have time later today, Pacific Standard Time if you'd like to get on the phone


775-552-5429

I think the OP method would be best suited for our style of clean, and we already have a number of washer and dryer combos for all of our packing blankets and fire damage towels etc so that would be easily added to our day to day... I mentioned mikes fest here local in Indianapolis to our owner and he is super interested and I would love to show case one of our little big trucks from butler along with bring some of my guys to learn and help clean, they all seemed very enthusiastic when I brought it up. I took an extended vacation around the holiday thats the reason for the late response but I will for sure be reaching out and look forward to meeting everyone in April...