Is there a "Green Carpet Protector" available?

[bensurdi]

I've done some research on finding a green carpet protector.

This company http://www.eco-clean.info/ecoguard.htm says to be using a natural carpet protector called EcoGuard which I think they coined themselves.

This product in the UK also seems interesting but I have not tried it yet.

"SOLUGARD® is a product of nanotechnology and the most advanced protector on the market today. It keep carpets looking cleaner longer by coating every single fibre with an invisible UV-stable naturally breathing protective layer. (In comparison: other protectors coat your carpet and furnishings with much larger particles, resulting in much less protection with faster dirt and soil build up)".


Has anyone used or recommend any green carpet protectors that work?

 

[Bill Soukoreff]

If you find one let me know. Many of my customers don't want fluoropolymer based products.

 

[Walt]

If you read it. It does not say that it is natural. It states is safe and doesn't have solvents.

"Eco Guard is a new carpet and furniture protectant that does not contain solvents or any known harmful chemicals. Tests have been shown that it out performs both Scotch Guard and Teflon in soil and stain resist."

"Though Eco Guard does not contain solvents or any known harmful chemicals it may not be appropriate for all people. For more information check our FAQ."


We try to inform our customers on what we believe is safe. The fact is we sell very little of it - I would say once every couple of months. If you want to be a green company you might have to give up on protector for the most part. It has a black eye industry. Personally I don't think it is warranted. For those who want protection we offer it.

email me or call me if you have any questions. The number is on the site.

 

[Bill Soukoreff]

If you read it. It does not say that it is natural. It states is safe and doesn't have solvents.

"Eco Guard is a new carpet and furniture protectant that does not contain solvents or any known harmful chemicals. Tests have been shown that it out performs both Scotch Guard and Teflon in soil and stain resist."

"Though Eco Guard does not contain solvents or any known harmful chemicals it may not be appropriate for all people. For more information check our FAQ."


We try to inform our customers on what we believe is safe. The fact is we sell very little of it - I would say once every couple of months. If you want to be a green company you might have to give up on protector for the most part. It has a black eye industry. Personally I don't think it is warranted. For those who want protection we offer it.

email me or call me if you have any questions. The number is on the site.

Nice Walt. Can you tell me how I can purchase it?

 

[Shawn Forsythe]

Though not a protectant against staining, bur a soil retardant nonetheless, colloidal silica (DuPont Ludox) is quite "green".
It is an excellent option for those who have customers demanding certain characteristics for their carpet protector.

 

[Guest]

May wanna tell custy's that that protector will void their warranty. Scotch Guard Teflon is what warranty requires for protectant.

 

[Bill Soukoreff]

May wanna tell custy's that that protector will void their warranty. Scotch Guard Teflon is what warranty requires for protectant.

That is only true is some very specific and seldom found situations.

 

[Ron Werner]

it'll also only be true for carpets protected with SG from the factory. Not all manufacturers are using SG.
I got away from that product when its orig bottle said "repeated exposure may cause irreversible effects". I know they changed their formula, but there are other products just as good if not better than their new formulation.

Most of the scuttlebutt about protector has to do with all the crap info about PFOA's, which is used in making frying pans, not carpet protectant. But of course, there's no distinction in the media, teflon is teflon, on a frying pan or your carpet.

Did reporters EVER report facts or have they always been writing half truths filled with insinuation?

 

[Bill Soukoreff]

it'll also only be true for carpets protected with SG from the factory. Not all manufacturers are using SG.
I got away from that product when its orig bottle said "repeated exposure may cause irreversible effects". I know they changed their formula, but there are other products just as good if not better than their new formulation.

Most of the scuttlebutt about protector has to do with all the crap info about PFOA's, which is used in making frying pans, not carpet protectant. But of course, there's no distinction in the media, teflon is teflon, on a frying pan or your carpet.

Did reporters EVER report facts or have they always been writing half truths filled with insinuation?

Mayby this is mis-information, but I thought the reason we are supposed to wear masks when applying, is because teflon sticks coats the lungs and is permanent. It will keep building up. Or is just a socialist Canada thing?

 

[leesenter]

Chemspec makes a Green Carpet Protector.
It is made from a telomer than is safe for California's Standards.

 

[completeseal]

CompleteSeal.com

Base carrier (a High Grade OMS) has an EPA rating of GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe)

...for those of you who don't want fluorochemicals or Teflon, also this product has a long track record in the Aerospace Industry. Stain and UV Resistance backed by independent laboratory test Reports

Easy to use. No mixing, little to no residue on hard surfaces, no freezing or separation issues - can be left in the cannister indefinitely.

 

[completeseal]

it'll also only be true for carpets protected with SG from the factory. Not all manufacturers are using SG.
I got away from that product when its orig bottle said "repeated exposure may cause irreversible effects". I know they changed their formula, but there are other products just as good if not better than their new formulation.

Most of the scuttlebutt about protector has to do with all the crap info about PFOA's, which is used in making frying pans, not carpet protectant. But of course, there's no distinction in the media, teflon is teflon, on a frying pan or your carpet.

Did reporters EVER report facts or have they always been writing half truths filled with insinuation?

Sorry...In truth the PFOA's used in the processing that make the Teflon for frying Pans IS INDEED THE SAME PFOA'S that are used in the processing to make the Teflon in carpet protection. Dupont has agreed to comply with the EPA and attempt to come up with a different (safer) method to make its Teflon for frying pans AND carpet protection. The EPA wants 90% compliance by 2010 and 100% compliance by 2015.

 

[Willy P]

www.ultrachemlabs.com -Protector is both Environmental Choice and Green Seal approved.

 

[TimP]

What about hardball water based?

 

[Mikey P]

Every chemical ingredient in Hardball water base has been rated "green" by the Synapse Handbook of Chemical Raw Ingredients.

 

[The Great Oz]

Guys, do a little research. Even the Environmental Working Group hacks have had to admit to their misinformation campaign, but unfortunately the retraction gets less notice than the scary story. I'm surprised no one has tried to link Teflon to Kawasaki Syndrome (yet).

PFOS was the persistent part of Scotchgard that caused 3M to reformulate. PFOS was part of the product.

PFOA is used in the process of making Teflon, but Teflon doesn't contain PFOA. Because the intitals PFOS and PFOA are similar, the profiteering "non-profit" (EWG) did a hack attack on DuPont, blending PFOS information, the bird killing effect of frying pan coatings heated to 600F, and pollution from a DuPont mill to allude to the "danger" of Teflon. The Teamsters union was trying unsuccessfully to organize a DuPont plant, and decided to spread the EWG BS to see if they could blackmail DuPont into giving in. Competitors continue to spread misinformation regardless of how it affects their credibility.

DuPont does not formulate using a solvent carrier. They sell their base resin to reformulators who add solvent, usually OMS, and resell under their own brand names. The difference between the "great" product and the so-so product may be limited to the amount of resin the reformulator chooses to use, working the fine line between protection and making the fibers feel stiff.

As for any protectant being green, they all are, none are and some are, all at the same time. Depends on who defines and how they define the green, just like many other chemicals.



PS: The protectant called Teflon, the non-stick coating called Teflon, and the high-density plastic called Teflon are not the same product. Just in case anyone was confused by scary story guys. :roll:

PPS: Try spilling some OMS on your pants and keep on working. You'll visit the doctor to get something for the huge, puffy red welt on your skin. Good things it's green, eh?

PPPS: Silicones are for waterproofing your tent and caulking your tub.

 

[jcdsog]

a little off topic but was wondering what the difference between the Scotchgard and the 3M Carpet protector is?

 

[completeseal]

The short answer to your question is a Reduced Carbon Chain
Old Scotchgard C-8 (toxic)
New Scotchgard C-4 (almost non-toxic)

This article will help you http://www.ewg.org/node/15481

CompleteSeal.com - Has never had PFOS in its ingredients. This is just one reason the aerospace industry is so high on the product.

 

[completeseal]

Guys, do a little research.

PFOA is used in the process of making Teflon, but Teflon doesn't contain PFOA.

PPS: Try spilling some OMS on your pants and keep on working. You'll visit the doctor to get something for the huge, puffy red welt on your skin. Good things it's green, eh?

Respectfully Sir,

On your first point, it is argued that there are "trace" amounts of PFOAS in the Teflon on Frying pans AND the Teflon carpet protector. Certainly the "trace" amounts are showing up in humans and our environment at an alarming rate according to the EPA

Regarding OMS: There are many grades of OMS. The grade and amount we use certainly does not cause what you described.

Please consider doing YOUR research before making a blanket statement.

Thank you for your time.

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