Made Glue Today

[Ron K]

Had a situation today. Needed an acid rinse and wanted some deodorizer too.
Used Bridgepoint Fab Set and some Hyrocide. Went to empty the pail and noticed something in the bottom of the bucket.
It was Glue like. Then for the hell of it I took same Chems and put them together in a small container and same thing Glue.
What happened? Anyone know or have the same experience?

 

[Brian R]

Isn't that whole Anionic/Cationic combo thing they teach us in IICRC?

Something about "don't do it" comes to mind.

 

[amazingcleansc]

Isn't that whole Anionic/Cationic combo thing they teach us in IICRC?

Something about "don't do it" comes to mind.

yeah please dont hand wash any rugs in my house with that!

 

[Hoody]

I would guess the glycolic acid in the Fab-Set, and the Isopropyl Alcohol in the odorcide. Glycolic acid is used in a lot of lotions and hair shampoos. I'm only guessing that the alcohol and maybe a bit of heat, reacted with the glycolic acid removing a lot of the water, and you now have the after product.

 

[Johnny]

Manufacturers should list the "polarity" of the product on the label.

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STOP GLOBAL COOLING

 

[Driguy]

Reverse Suponification

 

[J Scott W]

The Hydrocide is very concentrated. It must be at the proper pH in order to stay in solution. If the solution changes pH significantly to the acid side, it will separate.

You can reverse this situation pretty easily by adding something that will bring the pH back to somewhere between 6.0 to 10.0 and shake, the Hydrocide will go back into solution.

Hydrocide can be combined with rinse solution that has a little Fab Set in it with no change. But if you combine Hydrocide with more concentrated Fab Set or any other strong acid, it will separate into the various raw materials that made it up.

I expect the same would be true for the other "...cide" deodorizing products.

If you want to freshen up the fragrance of a room, it is better to add the Hydrocide to your alkaline prespray. It can also be added to almost any alkaline cleaning solution. Mixing with an acid does get a little tricky.

There is no polarity issue or reverse saponification involved. It is simply a matter of a very concentrated solution that is sensitive to pH of its environment.

 

[Ron K]

I was cleaning an Acrylic Boat cushion that had a bit of a musty smell. I really wasn't hand washing in Home.
I received this E mail today.



The acid in the Fab Set pulls the anti-resoil polymer out of the Hydrocide.
Bring the pH back to neutral and the polymer will go back into solution.
The first time we mixed Hydrocide in a big batch we had that separation
after putting one drum of the raw material into the tank. I learned after
a whole weekend of mixing that the pH was still acidic. Once I put all the
drums in the solution, the pH was neutral and the polymers all went into
solution. We recommend on the label adding to presprays, but there are no
acidic carpet presprays that I am aware of so this instruction was not
included. You can rinse with Fab Set, and spray hydrocide separately on
the carpet and you will not have this effect. I am not bulletin board
savvy so I am sending you an e-mail since Scott is not available to
respond.
Tom Forsythe
Formulator Bridgepoint

 

[KevinL]

So could I put this in my electric sprayer to fix the small hole in it?

 

[Ron K]

Kevin if all you spray is 6.9ph or less go for it. somewhat amus