Need to recommend a vacuum to the Theater..

[Mikey P]

Cheap bags, durable, serviceable, good value..


can I beat the Royal?

 

[Mikey P]

this wide boy should do great


As of now they use a Back Pack no beater pos.


http://www.jondon.com/ea-5158z-royal-upright.html

 

[Paul Demers]

The metal Royal is a great vacuum. I use the 18 inch metal Royal to vacuum my commercial jobs.

 

[Cleantechsk]

That 18" has been my main vac for a while now Mikey.
Better then my kirby and sharks


But I don't think it's right for employees of a theater?
As you know running over coins etc with this style doesn't go over well.

If it's dedicated crew for cleaning then might be ok ?
I use both the shake out style bag and both types of bags regular/hepa. Great vacuum.

 

[Shane Deubell]

this wide boy should do great


As of now they use a Back Pack no beater pos.


http://www.jondon.com/ea-5158z-royal-upright.html

Not for employees in a theater.
That thing will be in the shop more then not. Those things are for owner operators.

Whatever they do put a magnet on the front.

 

[Mikey P]

the chimps will continue to run the back packs, with the owners using the Royals in the lobby every few days.

 

[Shane Deubell]

That would be a great vacuum then.

Used to love the conquest but the last one we bought was a pos. Went through 2 motors in a year.

 

[Cleantechsk]

they will love them.

16 pounds assembled too which was like 1 extra pound over the cdn model shark I had ....

 

[Russ T.]

Let us know what they pick Mike. I bought a 14" Royal off Craigslist a couple months ago. It's great and I think I want the 18" model now. Royals aren't heavy at all, for what they are. That was my big hangup before owning one. (I know Mike is familiar with them, some might not be)

 

[Paul Demers]

the chimps will continue to run the back packs, with the owners using the Royals in the lobby every few days.

Those backpack vacuums w/o a powerhead will not remove embedded fine particulate / encapsulated soil. They will just suck up dirt and debris sitting on top of the carpet fibers.

IMO, lack of thorough vacuuming with a powerful and effective vacuum cleaner is the reason that many consider low moisture cleaning as maintenance cleaning requiring periodic flushing with HWE on more accounts than I think necessary. I have not cleaned a commercial account yet that properly and thoroughly vacuums their carpets!!! Even when they purchase a vacuum cleaner that I recommend to them, they still either can't get their people to vacuum properly or don't give their people the time to vacuum properly. Most of these workers seem to think they need to vacuum only areas where they see visible soil, not the entire carpet.

For this reason, I always thoroughly vacuum commercial jobs, and charge for it, and don't give a price option w/o vacuuming. (I do itemize it separately so they can compare quotes with other cleaners who do not pre-vacuum) I use vacuum cleaners that I have tested for effectiveness, such as the Metal Royal, the Bissell Heavy Duty, and the Riccar Tandem Air vacuums, not those POS ProTeam 1500s or Sanitaires or similar models. I also OP with absorbent pads to remove significant amounts of soil what would be left behind using a Cimex.

I would recommend to the owners to vacuum ALL the carpeting with the Royal at least a few times between each cleaning. Maybe they could do a walk through looking for coins and metal objects before having their workers vacuum with the Royal.

I would also recommend mixing your encap juice for the dilution recommended for heavily soiled carpets. The excess polymer will more effectively deal with the extreme stickiness from soda spills.

 

[Mikey P]

Great post Paul

Yes we will pre vacuum.

I disagree with your thoughts on the Sanitaire. With a good tight belt they work great.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Send them to the Clean Freak guys. They need a commercial "Wide Area" vacuum that way they can cover 2-3 times the area in the same amount of time.

That Pacific 30-inch looks pretty good.

http://www.cleanfreak.com/vacuums/industrial/wide-area.html

 

[Willy P]

http://www.sebo.us/

that's all you need to know

 

[Mikey P]

those suck.

 

[Steve Lawrence]

I'd be sure it has disposable bags whatever you get.

 

[Mikey P]

for sure

 

[Willy P]

those suck.

Yes they do- better than most, tough as nails and built to last. I did buy a Kirby to gift to my son, but it was only $75.

 

[Carpet Cleaning Fool]

The Royal Commericial upright has a lifetime warranty according to the owners manual

http://hoover.com/file/1591/

That's tough to beat.

 

[Mikey P]

dead link

 

[Carpet Cleaning Fool]

opps...

"With Royal Commercial All-Metal Uprights, you will get high performance, superior cleaning power and affordability all backed by the longest warranty in the industry; Lifetime Warranty on the nozzle, fancase and motor housing and 2 Year Limited Commercial Warranty".

http://www.royalvacuums.com/select-...-vacuums/commercial-all-metal-upright-vacuums

 

[Carpet Cleaning Fool]

You have to download the manual to read the warranty info at the bottom of page 4.

http://www.royalvacuums.com/select-...oyal-commercial-metal-upright-18-inch-zip-bag

 

[Willy P]

You know it's odd that Sebo gets slammed. Mine is 5 years old and still sucking the shite outta carpets like a charm. 4 of the property management companies I do work for have switched to Sebo and find them to be the best they've used, both for solid construction and longevity and they've gone through a whole pile of different brands. They get abused, but still keep ticking.

 

[Mikey P]

I had one Willy, just was never impressed with it's "bite"..

 

[Shane T]

You know it's odd that Sebo gets slammed. Mine is 5 years old and still sucking the shite outta carpets like a charm. 4 of the property management companies I do work for have switched to Sebo and find them to be the best they've used, both for solid construction and longevity and they've gone through a whole pile of different brands. They get abused, but still keep ticking.

I have one and it is well made and I'm sure it will last a long time but it simply does not vacuum well. It will pick up anything on or near the top of the carpet but it simply does not have the ability to deep vacuum. There is no comparison to what I can pull out of the carpet with my DC17 Absolute.

 

[Mikey P]

Exactly.

 

[Larry Cobb]

We like the new Bissell vacs . . .

which are actually Sanitaire commercials with several improvements . . .

They have built-in magnets , large single cord loops , dirt cup , and a loop handle . . .

http://www.cobbcarpet.com/zen/index...esult&search_in_description=1&keyword=bissell

Larry

 

[Mikey P]

But the same crappy belts that half the time wont finish a job.

They need to enclose the belt area and go Cogged like on those turbine heads