New Modified Mytee Flood Extractor

[Larry Cobb]

Had a demanding restoration contractor, who wanted a custom flood extractor with two 3-stage vacs and a large pump-out system.

After discussing the customer's needs with John of Mytee,

he made several modifications to his Flood Pumper to meet new requirements.

We then installed a second 3-stage vac motor to accommodate 200' vac hose runs.

The customer came in to test the modified machine.

It sucked 30 gallons of water and then pumped the same 30 gallons out the 1.5" outlet hose in ....

~45 seconds.

That gives it a Recovery AND Pump-Out Rate of ~ 40 gallons per minute.

Contractor had tested 3 other flood extractors and said none of them came close to that performance level.

Larry

 

[Steve Smith]

So the extractor has two 3-stage vac motors?

Are they run in parallel or series?


What is better (parallel or series) for no more than 40-50 feet vacuum hose with a water claw?

 

[Greenie]

flood= series, waterlift is your friend in flood.

If he liked the mytee floodsucker, there is yet another improvement you could do to make it more efficient.

Larry, what is the current start up amp draw of your example machine when running?

 

[Larry Cobb]

So the extractor has two 3-stage vac motors?

Are they run in parallel or series?

What is better (parallel or series) for no more than 40-50 feet vacuum hose with a water claw?

This particular machine has high lift 3-stage vacs (148") ...

they are run in parallel for this customer.

The primary cord takes a 20 amp circuit.

The second cord runs easily on a 15 amp circuit.

We can also run the vacs in series.

The sump pump only turns on, when the water level rises.

Larry

 

[Desk Jockey]

How big is the recovery when not using the pumpout?

How much?

 

[Larry Cobb]

Richard;

The recovery tank is 12 Gallons recovery.

Machine cost is $1429 w/ single Hi-Perf. 3-stage (148" lift)

Machine cost is $1899 w/ modifications to tank & dual Hi-Perf. 3-stage .

I'd be happy to send you one to try out freight prepaid.

Money back, if you're not satisfied.

Larry

 

[Desk Jockey]

Not quite ready to purchase one yet, we had a 6-rooms in a hotel, one on each of 6-floors.

We used a Rover and one of our old portables, not as efficient as flood pumpers but our old Castex Flood pumpers were already out.

When it's single digits, it's no fun running several hundred feet of vac hose and when necessary we will use portables.

I'll eventually need another pumper, but it's just not high on needs list.

 

[Bob Savage]

Sounds like a winner Larry. Mytee does it again.

Flood work can be demanding, especially if there is a lot of standing water.

We also use a high flow APO in our vacuum system, pumping 30 GPM (also available in 40 GPM and 60 GPM), discharging through a garden hose. The motor for the APO draws less than 1 amp.

It will keep up with heavy extraction, as the APO is controlled to come ON, and then go back OFF, all the while the vac is still ON.

The APO filter can go for days without any attention.

Since it's less than 40 lbs., you can easily hand carry it anywhere.

It uses only one (1) 15 amp cord.

 

[Scott S.]

Savage,

how do you get 40-60 gallons of water per min to flow outa a garden hose?

 

[Lee Stockwell]

3/4" hose

 

[Scott S.]

wouldnt it be coming out at like 40psi.. like a fire hose?

 

[dgardner]

To flow 60 gpm through a 100 foot 3/4" garden hose (with the outlet open to air), the APO would have to discharge at 350 psi.

 

[Greenie]

I've never seen any pump out push more than about 10 gpm under vacuum. but....if you are happy picking up 10 gal in a min. with your glided wand, what does it matter, it's working.

You would think at some point it would just be easy and universal to have these pump out machines use a 2" (or even 1.5" vac) hose connection. Do you need to pump more than 50' away is the question.

 

[Bob Savage]

I have not used the 40 GPM or the 60 GPM yet.

The 30 GPM has kept up with everything I have encountered, including standing water. It doesn't just trickle out of the hose, it does come out in a small stream.

 

[tmdry]

How does the Mytee modified unit compares to Steam Brite's Goliath 4/2 vacs?

http://www.***************/store/steambrite-goliath-quad-42vacs-flood-pumper-p-6271.html

The Goliath says it does 23 gpm, 200 cfm's, 170" lift.

Is the Mytee modified unit the 7000? On the site it says 70 gpm but that's the one w/ 1/3 stage vac, the modified one would be 2/3 stage vacs but at 40 gpm? I'm trying to understand.

 

[John LaBarbera]

How does the Mytee modified unit compares to Steam Brite's Goliath 4/2 vacs?

http://www.***************/store/steambrite-goliath-quad-42vacs-flood-pumper-p-6271.html

The Goliath says it does 23 gpm, 200 cfm's, 170" lift.

Is the Mytee modified unit the 7000? On the site it says 70 gpm but that's the one w/ 1/3 stage vac, the modified one would be 2/3 stage vacs but at 40 gpm? I'm trying to understand.

The pump is rated at 70 gpm coming out of the pump, as you add hose that # is dimished just like your vac or pressure pump on anybodies machine. Mytee has the bigest pump out in the Industry. Dual 3 stage in parallel is for the long hose run, short hose from the pump out. Put a water claw or the like on it and the water lift is plenty.

 

[Greenie]

It's silly and a complete waste of space, money, and amps to stack in 4 tiny two stage vacs as shown on SteamBrite's site.

It's the problem with the internet, carpet cleaners who don't know any better are sitting around in their underwear at midnight with their protractor and calculator out trying to determin who builds the "best" machien for the dollar.

There is a lot more to it that adding the theoretical waterlift and airflow of some lamb vacs.

And anyone who thinks putting two vacs and a 40gpm pump out on ONE cord, is looking for frequent trips to the breaker box.

You would be dollars and sense ahead, to follow Larry's lead and use high perfromance 3 stage vacs for a flood water application, that other machine claims (outright lies) that they have 170" of water lift, adding two 85" waterlift tiny vacs does NOT give you 170", it just doesn't, you MIGHT get 50% increase over the the 85".

A single 3 stage GS vac has 146-148" of waterlift (depending on who you ask), two of them in parallel OR series would spank that other configuration and consume fewer amps in the process.

You just can't replace a strong 3 stage with a two stage in any application, it's more than math.

 

[Nate The Great]

It's silly and a complete waste of space, money, and amps to stack in 4 tiny two stage vacs as shown on SteamBrite's site.

It's the problem with the internet, carpet cleaners who don't know any better are sitting around in their underwear at midnight with their protractor and calculator out trying to determin who builds the "best" machien for the dollar.

There is a lot more to it that adding the theoretical waterlift and airflow of some lamb vacs.

And anyone who thinks putting two vacs and a 40gpm pump out on ONE cord, is looking for frequent trips to the breaker box.

You would be dollars and sense ahead, to follow Larry's lead and use high perfromance 3 stage vacs for a flood water application, that other machine claims (outright lies) that they have 170" of water lift, adding two 85" waterlift tiny vacs does NOT give you 170", it just doesn't, you MIGHT get 50% increase over the the 85".

A single 3 stage GS vac has 146-148" of waterlift (depending on who you ask), two of them in parallel OR series would spank that other configuration and consume fewer amps in the process.

You just can't replace a strong 3 stage with a two stage in any application, it's more than math.

Dude, I started looking around to see if there was a hidden camrea around. How'd you know that?

 

[tmdry]

It's silly and a complete waste of space, money, and amps to stack in 4 tiny two stage vacs as shown on SteamBrite's site.

It's the problem with the internet, carpet cleaners who don't know any better are sitting around in their underwear at midnight with their protractor and calculator out trying to determin who builds the "best" machien for the dollar.

There is a lot more to it that adding the theoretical waterlift and airflow of some lamb vacs.

And anyone who thinks putting two vacs and a 40gpm pump out on ONE cord, is looking for frequent trips to the breaker box.

You would be dollars and sense ahead, to follow Larry's lead and use high perfromance 3 stage vacs for a flood water application, that other machine claims (outright lies) that they have 170" of water lift, adding two 85" waterlift tiny vacs does NOT give you 170", it just doesn't, you MIGHT get 50% increase over the the 85".

A single 3 stage GS vac has 146-148" of waterlift (depending on who you ask), two of them in parallel OR series would spank that other configuration and consume fewer amps in the process.

You just can't replace a strong 3 stage with a two stage in any application, it's more than math.

Thanks for the advice.

You mentioned above that there is still something it can be done to the mytee unit. What would that be?

 

[dgardner]

There is a lot more to it that adding the theoretical waterlift and airflow of some lamb vacs.

You would be dollars and sense ahead, to follow Larry's lead and use high perfromance 3 stage vacs for a flood water application, that other machine claims (outright lies) that they have 170" of water lift, adding two 85" waterlift tiny vacs does NOT give you 170", it just doesn't, you MIGHT get 50% increase over the the 85".

Very true. Ametek Lamb agrees with you Greenie. From a tech article on their website:

"When two like motors are connected in air series, the sealed vacuum level will increase by approximately 60% from that of a single motor. Airflow at a wide open condition does not appreciably increase by operating two vacuum motors in air series."

Find the complete article article here:

http://www.ametekfsm.com/Technical_reference.aspx

 

[tmdry]

It's silly and a complete waste of space, money, and amps to stack in 4 tiny two stage vacs as shown on SteamBrite's site.

It's the problem with the internet, carpet cleaners who don't know any better are sitting around in their underwear at midnight with their protractor and calculator out trying to determin who builds the "best" machien for the dollar.

There is a lot more to it that adding the theoretical waterlift and airflow of some lamb vacs.

And anyone who thinks putting two vacs and a 40gpm pump out on ONE cord, is looking for frequent trips to the breaker box.

You would be dollars and sense ahead, to follow Larry's lead and use high perfromance 3 stage vacs for a flood water application, that other machine claims (outright lies) that they have 170" of water lift, adding two 85" waterlift tiny vacs does NOT give you 170", it just doesn't, you MIGHT get 50% increase over the the 85".

A single 3 stage GS vac has 146-148" of waterlift (depending on who you ask), two of them in parallel OR series would spank that other configuration and consume fewer amps in the process.

You just can't replace a strong 3 stage with a two stage in any application, it's more than math.

Thanks for the advice.

You mentioned above that there is still something it can be done to the mytee unit. What would that be?

Greenie?