Not Everything can be Resolved..

[DAT]

Worked on this today. About 2 years ago, customer had a party and guest spilled on it. They attempted to clean this with either windex or resolved.. I told custy that it might not come out at all, considering the fiber may have been damaged, and permanent change of appearance.

I vacuumed it, then proceeded mist distilled water and extracted with distilled water to remove any possible residue.. still there.

Used bone dry, agitated it with op cotton pad, and extracted with all fiber rinse hoping citric acid would help...no go. I even forced dry it.

Used %3 peroxide allowed to dry while i work on rug and a large sectional. Still there.

Tested a small part of it with cotton swab to see if worth the effort. Nope.


Only thing I havnt tried is a reducer, wool red relief. Should I do that when I go back tomorrow? Or should I stop?

 

[ruff]

Rayon/linen!
Be quite risky to try a reducer on that. Most likely will make a halo (lighter area).
I'd only do it if the client is planning on discarding of item unless stain is removed and they signed a release. Test first. And then it will need to be applied to the entire piece, as it will lighten color compared to non treated pieces. And the reducer should not be mixed very strongly and applied evenly.

Or......... if the wife wants a new piece in your living room

 

[Cleanworks]

Try a liquid Browning treatment. It will have a mild reducer. Spray on, agitate a little, spray and let dry.

 

[Mikey P]

Just turn it inside out.

 

[DAT]

Is wool red relief a good idea? I can mix A and B and dilute it down.

 

[ruff]

Try a liquid Browning treatment. It will have a mild reducer. Spray on, agitate a little, spray and let dry.

Browning treatment is a variety of products. From a very strong acid to milder and some are mixed with reducers.
Very different.

 

[Hack Attack]

I know cotton and linen aren't the same but they are both plant based.

I would use a haiitian cotton cleaner (reducer built in) but only with a honest attempt no responsibility for results understanding with customer

 

[ruff]

Haitian cotton cleaner is an acid boosted reducer with detergent.
Linen and Rayon are quite susceptible to damage from it.

 

[DAT]

Thats why i thought to use wool red relief as it evens it out and it come with neutralizer.

 

[ruff]

Test. It is still a reducing agent (Part A).

 

[DAT]

In a different spot? Or directly on the spot

 

[Cleanworks]

Browning treatment is a variety of products. From a very strong acid to milder and some are mixed with reducers.
Very different.

Chemspec liquid Browning treatment. It's glacial acetic acid with a mild reducer.

 

[Hack Attack]

If its viewed as a salvage job (no responsibility) its an option

Test as said above

I've removed serious staining from linen with cotton cleaner but told customer no responsibility, it did shorten the life of piece judging how it looked 2yrs later. But it was acceptable for those 2 yrs

 

[DAT]

They seems that they want to keep it for a while. Thats why i avoided using the cotton cleaner.

 

[SamIam]

Are you spot cleaning or wetting out the whole area?

 

[bob vawter]

C4-C12 no dwell followed by quick applied zippo!

 

[DAT]

Are spot cleaning or wetting out the whole area?

Already cleaned the whole thing. Turned out great except those two persisting areas. It just wont disappear

 

[DAT]

I really think it damaged fiber from the custy attempted cleaning with windex or resolve

 

[DAT]

 

[Hack Attack]

@Derrick T. Clax magic by diversey? never used it so not an endorsement but I'm going to see if can order some samples for my own curiosity

 

[Jimmy L]

" Glacial"

 

[Andy]

Stain Magic or another organic stain remover. If it was red wine and a cheap wine they sometimes have a dye in them. In an upholstery class we removed a wine stain. used red relief first, that took care of the synthetic dye. Yellowish brown spot still remained from the organics used stain magic and it disappeared. It was a compound stain had to use one then the other.

 

[ruff]

High Vol Peroxide and Amonia on linen/rayon.............hm.....be curious what it will do to the fabric dyes and life expectancy of fabric.

Post pictures.

 

[DAT]

Did test on it, it remained unchanged.

Im done. They are okay with it considering that i got all the other crap out.

It funny how it disspears if you look at it from the right, but from the left it is slightly obvious.

 

[Cleanworks]

Did test on it, it remained unchanged.

Im done. They are okay with it considering that i got all the other crap out.

It funny how it disspears if you look at it from the right, but from the left it is slightly obvious.

Then don't look at it that way.

 

[Old Coastie]

At what point would re-dying it become an option?

Anyone try that yet?

 

[DAT]

I did suggest that to her.. she said that it would fun to have whole thing sprayed down into different color. Maybe i should take colorful dye class...

 

[Jim Pemberton]

I did suggest that to her.. she said that it would fun to have whole thing sprayed down into different color. Maybe i should take colorful dye class...

Dyeing cellulose fibers isn't as easily done as nylon and wool. Plus you have a lot of residue ( no matter how much you think you've rinsed, you do) of dye altering chemistry in the fabric, so I doubt any dye would take evenly. Even if you had zero residue of your stain removal products, you also have shampoo residue, which is also hard to flush from cellulose fibers.

Finally, even factory dyes tend to crock off of cellulose fibers, so something site dyed would likely crock more...onto your customer's clothes ...so ...not so good.

Here is the good news: The aforementioned chemical residues will keep working on those stains, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if the stains fade over time.

"You done good kid.....stop while you are ahead"

 

[DAT]

Thats good to know and i hope it will improve over time. That would be cool.

 

[Jim Pemberton]

I have seen surprising results over time with both reducers and oxidizers. Sunlight alone lightens over time. I'm fairly convinced this will improve somewhat, but make no commitments.

Just please, for the love of whatever you find holy....do not dye this.