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SamIam

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Hello,

I would like to send you text message, kindly send me your cell phone number and are you the owner of the company?

Thanks,

James

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Clayton Miller <sammillerscarpetcare@yahoo.com>wrote:
We accept credit card through Costco business services we clean carpet tile and upholstery

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On Jun 7, 2016, at 3:33 PM, James Miller <cyclesurferr1@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

My name is James Miller , I just bought a new house. and renovation just finished in it, I would like to know if you do rug cleaning or what can you do in the new home and do you accept credit card as payment and what type of credit card merchant you using, kindly send me your personal cell phone.

Thanks,

James
 

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Hello,

Yes they are all in the house but the problem is that the keys to access the house which still with the initial owner, so i was told that i still need to balance up with $4000.00 before my keys can be drop with you for estimate and this is happening because there were some changes in the house that cost the agent more fee okay, so you will be filling up the space of handling everything for me and take the keys for me so that you can proceed with the cleaning work estimate and i will be paying for the total expenses so it can be easy for you okay. so what you will do for me now is that i will give you my credit card to charge for sum of $5000.00 plus 3% of the credit card company and you will deduct $1000 as a deposit to prepare you ahead for my contract and assistant to help me and you will be the deposit $4000 to the initial owner via Bank Cash deposit and after they have got the balance then they can have the keys sent to your location for you to start your work....letting me know that you understand. i will wait till my credit card clear into your account before you can go ahead with the transaction.

Regards,

James.

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Clayton Miller <sammillerscarpetcare@yahoo.com>wrote:
Are the rugs at the house?? Or is there a private shipper involved?

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On Jun 9, 2016, at 8:55 AM, James Miller <cyclesurferr1@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

I want you to do the cleaning job, i do reside here in state but i want to relocate back to the house you want help me with the work, i will like you to do me a favor because i'm on business trip right now and i will be very glad if you can handle everything for me, but i will love to come back to reside at the new home so i will like it to be cleaned before i arrive,I will be paying for the inspection of the property for proper handling and estimation so here is the house address (2038 W AvenueK15, Lancaster, CA 93536) how much it will cost you to wash Twilight Rugs 39001 2868 are a superbly finished, quality woven shaggy with a thick, luxurious, 100% Heatset Polypropylene pile 65x130cm (4’3"x2’2") rug and actually i have 15 rugs of that, can you do the total calculation for the cleaning for the 15 rugs sized 2500 square feet, i will be making payment as soon as possible because i have less time but the most important thing here now is that the keys you will use in entering the house and do some checking are still with the initial owner and i have text-ed him and he got back to me that they will send the keys to the contractors that will handle the cleaning work which will be you.

Thanks,

James.



On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Clayton Miller <sammillerscarpetcare@yahoo.com>wrote:
6618866806 yes

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On Jun 9, 2016, at 8:46 AM, James Miller <cyclesurferr1@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

I would like to send you text message, kindly send me your cell phone number and are you the owner of the company?

Thanks,

James

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Clayton Miller <sammillerscarpetcare@yahoo.com>wrote:
We accept credit card through Costco business services we clean carpet tile and upholstery

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 7, 2016, at 3:33 PM, James Miller <cyclesurferr1@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

My name is James Miller , I just bought a new house. and renovation just finished in it, I would like to know if you do rug cleaning or what can you do in the new home and do you accept credit card as payment and what type of credit card merchant you using, kindly send me your personal cell phone.

Thanks,

James
 

SamIam

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HOLY HORSE PUCKY BATMAN

2 in one day


Thanks for your reply,

I am hearing impaired and I am at the hospital right now will undergo a surgery soon, this is the best way to communicate. I am getting my belongings moved from my old apartment to my new home soon I would want you meet with the movers time they will be delivering my furniture to my new home so you can have access.

About the Measurement: 16*16ft size living room, 12*12ft size 3 bedroom, 2 baths, 12*10ft size kitchen. Address is 43812 Sondi Dr, Lancaster, CA.

Areas to be treated, include: carpets, internal skirting boards/perimeters, roof void, subfloor (where applicable) and external perimeters of the premises.

I want to know if you can handle that for me, while am away cus I will want everything to be in place in my new house before I got discharged from the Hospital and leaving to my new house to have a good home rest and continue with my work. I got the details of your company so i will forward them to the movers and they can contact regarding their delivery on my site and you can have the access to check thoroughly in-case anything to add. I will like if you could get back with the quote. Let me know your % for the Deposit payment. i will be happy to email you my credit card for payment.

Looking forward to hear back from you soon.
Regards
Cell Number: 757) 542-0569(Text Only)

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 6:52 AM, Clayton Miller <sammillerscarpetcare@yahoo.com>wrote:
Yes we can we give phone estimates or if you tell how many rooms and how many love seats I can give you a ballpark estimate.

Sam Miller 7280482


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On Thursday, June 9, 2016, 5:18 AM, Rebeca Shawn <anthonia0101@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi

I have some carpets and loveseats set that needs to be cleaned. Let me know if you can handle the cleaning for me and do you accept credit card for payment.

Best Regards

Rebeca
 
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Lol...


This ones a doozie. Guy sent me a 1000 word text, then this. I can hear the Indian accent through the email. Going to mess w/him a little.






Good afternoon

How are you ? Thanks for your Reply , I'm glad you are available for my spring cleaning Next week, and also my cleaning should be done right after you received my Payment for the cleaning and the cleaning items you might need to buy for my work.

I hope three to four hours will be enough to clean my 3 bedroom apt with one master bedroom and two standard size rooms, with One Living room and a kitchen as well ? The apartment was meant for my late father who just passed away, my wife with two kids will be moving in to the apartment and i want it to be clean and re-furnished before they moved in . Please get back to me asap, below Details are listed thing to be clean on your clean and also its a wooden floor
1. kitchen, including inside/outside cabinets
2. fridge
3. oven/stove
4. bathroom, everything; cabinets inside/outside, tub, toilette, walls, floor
5. sweep, wash the floors, vacuum

You will help us to clean the apartment twice as we want to change all the furniture in the apartment and re-furnished it with new once, the first time cleaning will be before the apartment is furnished and the second time is when they finish furnishing the apartment, i will be offering you $400 for the one time thorough cleaning. The apartment key will be mail to you so that you can be able to clean it before they arrive. I want to know if there's any equipment that you will need me to provide, if there's any let me know how much it will cost, if we are satisfied with the services you rendered we can discuss more regular cleaning and scheduling. My wife would be handling the payment and some other expenses, so she will be the one that would be taking care of your payment, I will instruct her to pay for the one time thorough cleaning before our arrival so as to secure your service, my wife would be needing the following Information to make out the payment by Certified money order or Certified Bank draft, the apartment address will be disclose to you once you get back to me with the following requested details

Name to be on Check:
YOUR ADDRESS
YOUR CITY
YOUR PROVINCE
YOUR POSTAL-CODE
YOUR PHONE-NUMBER
DO YOU HAVE ANY CRIMINAL RECORD

Most importantly, i need your total honesty, sincerity and ability to carry out the task with less supervision. I know you will be committed to the work, I will be waiting to hear from you soon .Have a great Week sincere cleaner don't forget i will call you once the payment is been sent out to you tomorrow


Regard
Lewa Fernadez
 

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I can't wait for the interactive days when you could send a message and their phone will slap them in the face.

Or give an impulse to their nice little lithium-ion battery to self distract in a violent manner.
 
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FB7777

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Holy waste of time

In Boston we reply &6%4 off

No tickey no laundry Habib
 
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Fred Boyle, I get a bit more explicit.

If that offends them, then I.D.G.A.F. :arrrr:

:yoda:
 
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Looked perfectly legitimate to me, what's the problem besides some very poor grammar? You guys don't know how lucky you are.
 

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Holy waste of time

In Boston we reply &6%4 off

No tickey no laundry Habib
That's the new and "improved" Boyle and I don't buy that for a second.
I'm quite sure that Fred's original response would have been a lot more "flowery".

Lewa Fernadez would very much like to know your real response Fred.
 

Barry-QDCC

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This is the text I received last week. I decided to have a bit of fun. The guy told me to F off, so I enjoyed that!!

Hello, This is mark.I will like to know if you do HOUSE CLEANING? Please get back if you are available, , please let me know if you would need more details. I can send you more details and also do you ACCEPT CREDIT CARDS for PAYMENT?

Jun 01 8:32pm
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Barry
Quick Dry Carpet Cleaning

Jun 01 8:33pm

Okay thank you and how are you? actually am relocating from my old house own to your city and i would like to know how much will 10 x 14 Area rug cost for cleaning and actually i have 10 carpet of that, can you do the total calculation for the cleaning for the 10 carpet square feet and get back to me with the total cost, and i would be sending a private courier to you it will be delivery and be the one to pick up the carpet so please get back to me with
Jun 01 8:34pm
the information listed below Thanks

Total Cost for your service:
Full name and Address:
Cellphone and Office Phone:
Jun 01 8:34pm
$3,545.45 for everything


Great your estimate cost meet up with my initial budget. so i will be giving you my credit card now for you to run a down payment of your work, and i need a little favor from you ?
Jun 01 8:37pm

. just send me your credit card info. We'll get it straightened out later. I'm sorry I mis-typed, it's actually $8,545.45. .Sorry about that
Jun 01 8:39pm

smile
Jun 01 8:40pm

i need a little favor
Jun 01 8:41pm

hurry...send it
Jun 01 8:41pm

we are almost closing
Jun 01 8:41pm

**** you
Jun 01 8:42pm

Now I have to add a $100 to the cost since you used a bad word.Jun 01 8:43pm

ok..I'll not add the extra if you say sorry and send me your credit card info NOW.
Jun 01 8:44pm

You missed out.. I'm closing.
Jun 01 8:53pm

ok..I'll wait 5 more minutes for your credit card info...come on! lets get those carpets cleaned ASAP!
Jun 01 8:53pm

I'm tired of your games....SEND me your damn numbers NOW!
Jun 01 9:00pm

Hurry mark! WAIT, this afternoon you said your name was JOE! Are you telling me a little white lie? What is the name on your credit card - mark or JOE?
I gotta know to charge it.




 
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SamIam

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This is the text I received last week. I decided to have a bit of fun. The guy told me to F off, so I enjoyed that!!

Hello, This is mark.I will like to know if you do HOUSE CLEANING? Please get back if you are available, , please let me know if you would need more details. I can send you more details and also do you ACCEPT CREDIT CARDS for PAYMENT?

Jun 01 8:32pm
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Barry
Quick Dry Carpet Cleaning

Jun 01 8:33pm

Okay thank you and how are you? actually am relocating from my old house own to your city and i would like to know how much will 10 x 14 Area rug cost for cleaning and actually i have 10 carpet of that, can you do the total calculation for the cleaning for the 10 carpet square feet and get back to me with the total cost, and i would be sending a private courier to you it will be delivery and be the one to pick up the carpet so please get back to me with
Jun 01 8:34pm
the information listed below Thanks

Total Cost for your service:
Full name and Address:
Cellphone and Office Phone:
Jun 01 8:34pm
$3,545.45 for everything


Great your estimate cost meet up with my initial budget. so i will be giving you my credit card now for you to run a down payment of your work, and i need a little favor from you ?
Jun 01 8:37pm

. just send me your credit card info. We'll get it straightened out later. I'm sorry I mis-typed, it's actually $8,545.45. .Sorry about that
Jun 01 8:39pm

smile
Jun 01 8:40pm

i need a little favor
Jun 01 8:41pm

hurry...send it
Jun 01 8:41pm

we are almost closing
Jun 01 8:41pm

**** you
Jun 01 8:42pm

Now I have to add a $100 to the cost since you used a bad word.Jun 01 8:43pm

ok..I'll not add the extra if you say sorry and send me your credit card info NOW.
Jun 01 8:44pm

You missed out.. I'm closing.
Jun 01 8:53pm

ok..I'll wait 5 more minutes for your credit card info...come on! lets get those carpets cleaned ASAP!
Jun 01 8:53pm

I'm tired of your games....SEND me your damn numbers NOW!
Jun 01 9:00pm

Hurry mark! WAIT, this afternoon you said your name was JOE! Are you telling me a little white lie? What is the name on your credit card - mark or JOE?
I gotta know to charge it.






EPIC
 

SamIam

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He was trying to get give me 5k on a credit card plus 3% and I would send a money order or cashiers check to the tenants for the keys.

This scam must work if not why would they keep trying???
 
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I get these text messages about every other month. They also have a water damage one. If I have time I will lead them on a bit. If they ask you if you except credit cards in the text it's probably a scam. If you not sure if it's a scam tell them you only except credit cards in person with proper ID. They will send you a text saying they are in the hospital or some lie like that.

They send emails also.
 
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Zee

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After the very first text I knew it had to be the same scam...bad grammar...asking about shop...asking about credit card...

So I composed my answer to be the unmistakable and easily understood "Yes".

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It was early in the morning, so I didn't feel like getting into it.
 
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Shorty

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Okay, I have not received any of the above as such.

What I do receive are Telemarketers.

These come in different forms such as computer generated calls that hang up as soon as you answer, they then know what time to call you.

Or, callers from India, Pakistan, Philippines, etc; purporting to be calling from Australia.

I have no time for these wankers & (to a degree) have stopped abusing them, 'cos I could have people around me.:icon_redface:

After the first call, I save their number listed under Dickhead 1, Dickhead 2, Dickhead 3, etc; get the picture??

After I got to 40 something, I just kept saving them all under "Dickheads".

When they call again, I see the name pop up & I simply reject the call.

No hassle, no time lost, no stress.

:yoda:
 
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So are they hoping you can send them a money order for the difference back before the credit card charge gets declined or do they hack into your bank account by having you run their bogus credit card?
 

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Credit card clears you send a money order or cashiers check. That can't be recovered.

They dispute credit card charges your out money order. With no way to recover your loss.
 
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