pain in the butt video store carpet

[juniorc82]

I cleaned a video store last night that was a big time pain in the butt. the carpet was filthy it probly had not been cleaned in a couple years. I first attempted to hwe pre sprayed ,pre scrubbed w/ red pad,extracted ,post bonneted. It looked terrible !!!!! this carpet seemed to be getting dirtier as I cleaned it ! when I hwe it was like all kinds of dirt and grime that was trapped in the fibers washed to the surface and left dingy almost muddy looking streaks . I tried to rinse more but more crap just kept coming to the surface looking bad. The custy had requested hwe only but I brought the cimex because this had happend before on trached cgd. I used the cimex and got far better results my only concern was the cimex left lots of swirls and tracks in the carpet . If the swirls and tracks in the carpet from the cimex will vacuum out or go away than its good. I just want to know have you guys dealt with carpet that did that and actualy washed dirt and griime to the surface while you were cleaning ?

 

[Guest]

Yes, on a video store carpet. Prevac is very important. It may take you a few cleanings to get it up to par.

 

[Hoody]

Yep, poorly maintained carpet will do that. Probably loaded with dirt and residue. Clean it regularly and you'll find that it'll come out better each time.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Sure on heavily soiled carpet it's not uncommon. Sounds like you did a good job using the Cimex for agitation. The swirl marks can be difficult to remove on dense piled carpet. Grooming them before it dries helps.

 

[hogjowl]

I have this carpet from hell (in a church, no less) that would just never respond well to HWE. If I encapped it, then it did fine, but with hwe it would always look streaked after drying. Trouble was, I could not keep it clean with encap, because the soiling level was so high. When I got my Vortex, I figured the high heat, flow and recovery of the V would surely make it so I could hwe it. Nope! Still looked like crap after hwe.

Then, one day I decided to try an acid rinse. Why acid rinse it? I said to myself, it's an olefin!

Did it anyway and it looked wonderful after drying.

 

[Guest]

What was the name of the acid rinse, Marty? Did it have an anti-wicking agent in it?

 

[Desk Jockey]

Porkchop what did you do before the acid rinse?

Pre-spray and HWE or did you pre-scrub with CRB or 175?

Tell me......TELL ME NOW!!!
:wink:

 

[hogjowl]

The acid rinse I use is DooDaddy's Ultra Rinse.

 

[Guest]

Good stuff. Works well for those carpets that have heavy residue.

 

[tmdry]

I cleaned a video store last night that was a big time pain in the butt. the carpet was filthy it probly had not been cleaned in a couple years. I first attempted to hwe pre sprayed ,pre scrubbed w/ red pad,extracted ,post bonneted. It looked terrible !!!!! this carpet seemed to be getting dirtier as I cleaned it ! when I hwe it was like all kinds of dirt and grime that was trapped in the fibers washed to the surface and left dingy almost muddy looking streaks . I tried to rinse more but more crap just kept coming to the surface looking bad. The custy had requested hwe only but I brought the cimex because this had happend before on trached cgd. I used the cimex and got far better results my only concern was the cimex left lots of swirls and tracks in the carpet . If the swirls and tracks in the carpet from the cimex will vacuum out or go away than its good. I just want to know have you guys dealt with carpet that did that and actualy washed dirt and griime to the surface while you were cleaning ?

Which fiber pad did you use on the cimex? Fiber Plus(beige) or Fiber Max(gray)?

You can post pad the carpet and it would remove the swirls and get it even cleaner.

 

[renegade_cowboy]

Did you spend enough time vacuuming. How often are they going to clean it? It sounds like they have no idea to take care of it, you should set up a program for them so they dont have to deal with it.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Bill would you pad it with the small pads for the Cimex or use OP?

 

[juniorc82]

i need to let it be known that I encapped using the cimex . I wasnt getting very good results after hwe so encap worked better. fiber plus pads realeaseit ds

 

[Becker]

I use to do a ton of Comm, in Spokane years ago I did all the Blockbuster stores every month to 6 weeks.

Then moved here and did 15 - 20 per month.

I hated it so much.

One night I was in renting a movie at a blockbuster.
I saw the girl vacuuming for the night.
She might as well have not plugged it in.
Or just used a sweeper broom.

So yes, tons and tons of impacted soil.
I think Ron would be vacing for a week to be satisfied before prespraying.


Just think of the daily volume of foot traffic.


Hope they paid ya, Blockbuster ( AKA team clean ) paid as little as possible, so they got what they paid for. NO VAC. prespray and wand race.

Most of the newer small stores I was in and out in 45 mins.

 

[Guest]

I use to do a ton of Comm, in Spokane years ago I did all the Blockbuster stores every month to 6 weeks.

Then moved here and did 15 - 20 per month.

I hated it so much.

One night I was in renting a movie at a blockbuster.
I saw the girl vacuuming for the night.
She might as well have not plugged it in.
Or just used a sweeper broom.

So yes, tons and tons of impacted soil.
I think Ron would be vacing for a week to be satisfied before prespraying.


Just think of the daily volume of foot traffic.


Hope they paid ya, Blockbuster ( AKA team clean ) paid as little as possible, so they got what they paid for. NO VAC. prespray and wand race.

Most of the newer small stores I was in and out in 45 mins.

I used to do 20 or so of them also. Very little pay. Only 2 hours allowed for carpet cleaning. There was no way you could vac and HWE in that amount of time!

 

[Becker]

They still call me from time to time.

New contractor has the stores. I listen to the offer... The countered by doubling the offer....

Come on... get there at 11:30 pm...

Last time I checked those hours required a higher pay scale..

 

[Ron Werner]

had a local video store that eventually I cleaned, but not until a porty hack and a tm hack tried to clean it. The soil load was so great I vacuumed for an hour a little over 200sf, even used an RX20, and it still wicked. It was a olefin berber. Never could get that carpet looking good after cleaning.
Thats one place HWE, with prevac of course, followed by padding would have worked nice.
It always seemed to look good a few days after.

 

[ACE]

I think porky is right. Acid rinse would be the best thing you could do. That cid kills the surfactants and lets any remaining soil drop off the fiber instead of wicking to the surface.

 

[juniorc82]

I know most of the tricks on commercial carpet and what I do know is this. I picked an area of the store and pre scrubbed extracted then post padded and the improvements were only marginal and the cleaning rate sucked . these people didnt want to pay much and if i tried to hwe with pre and post padding it would have took me almost 8 hours to complete plus it still would not have looked as good as being encapped by the cimex. encapping with the cimex improved the carpets look far more the even the greatest hwe dog and pony show. I have learned this time and time again what a big player encapping can be in the commercial market . I think the cimex is worth its weight in gold

 

[tmdry]

Richard -

I would've pre scrubbed with cimex w/ fiber plus or fiber max after a good prevac, either strong hwe chem or punch by releaseit, sometimes depending on the type of carpet it might be difficult to spin the max pads, but i would always keep it w/ us to give it a try especially on the heavy soiled carpets, the fiber max pads do a better job prescrubbing. Extract w/ TM, than I would follow with OP pads on an OP either Glads or Clark's cheaper pads with DS @ 6oz/gallon this will help with wicking/resoiling, I think glads by John are the best pads, but you'd have to make them strictly for dirty commercial since they'll always be black in those type of situations. I would not use the 175 w/ any pad if I also had a cimex and i would not use a cotton pad to post pad w/ a cimex.

Main issue as Junior says is time and pay. In order to get it to be the best possible you'd have to use cimex/tm/op combined to get the best results but they want you in and out fast, one of the reasons i dropped a monthly restaurant account.

Maybe do a trial of pre scrub/extract/post pad one time, than encap w/ cimex in between for the next few cleanings, than see how long you can go b4 needing to extract again. I think extracting at least once a year to twice, will make a big difference since employees can't vacuum for their life.