Spraying protector on wet carpet is not very beneficial

[daniel@procarpet]

How can you expect the carpet fibers to absorb the protector if they are already wet. Some people may use an airpath and leave the carpet almost dry. That however is still not the same as applying it to dry carpet. Today I went back to a house I cleaned yesterday to spray protectant and groom the carpet. In my mind I was thinking the protector would work better and adhere to the carpet since the carpet was dry. Am I right or am I wrong?

 

[steve frasier]

some will tell you the protector slides down the fiber

I don't know the answer but most carpet we teflon coat clean easier the next cleaning, they are airpath dried and the fiber usually isn't damp even without the airpath so I feel the teflon is pulled down the top part of the fiber

I can understand the question if the carpet was wet while the coating was applied

 

[Loren Egland]

If memory serves me, the manufacturers of Teflon and Scotchgard give instructions that if the carpet is not wet from cleaning, then you have to double the dilution of water and spray on 1 gallon of diluted protection per 100 sq ft of carpet instead of 1/2 gallon per 100 sq ft.

 

[Shawn Forsythe]

Typically, water based protectors are diluted to higher concentrations (less water added) to account for or to "compensate" for the residual moisture of a freshly cleaned carpet, imparting further dilution that approximates the dilution levels as if applied to dried carpet.

edit: Or as Loren worded it, as I was slow to type (had to take a phone call in the middle of posting)

 

[Ron Werner]

there was a protectant that had would reduce the water surface tension to allow it to flow around the fibres. Needs more water when its dry so as to wet the fibres.
Its better to apply to wet carpet.

 

[emilyjohn]

it will take approximately 2-4 hours for carpet and upholstery to dry after being deep cleaned. To expedite the drying process, you will want to use a fan and increase your air circulation.
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[Chris A]

it will take approximately 2-4 hours for carpet and upholstery to dry after being deep cleaned. To expedite the drying process, you will want to use a fan and increase your air circulation.
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a fan? That is crazy talk. You'll blow all the protector off.

and why isn't it:

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guess that would be a little long

LOL FeRd!

 

[Larry Cobb]

danielc;

Just use a solvent-based fluorochemical.

It will give the best repellency, anyway.

Larry

 

[ruff]

danielc;

Just use a solvent-based fluorochemical.

It will give the best repellency, anyway.

Larry

And a dose of toxic solvent for your client to breathe to boot!

 

[emilyjohn]

:wink: Locking horns is not the way we work - we always offer good advice; dry the carpet out before the protectant is applied.

 

[Fletch]

How can you expect the carpet fibers to absorb the protector if they are already wet.

It would seem to me that as the moisture evaporated from within the fibers, the protectant would be drawn in or seal the exterior. There would be no need for protector on the inside if the outside is well protected.

One could say that applying it to a dry carpet could take the protectant to the center of the fibers, potentially failing to adequately coat the exterior, where you really want it anyway!

I'm not going to burn the remaining few brain cells I have left on this one. I will suggest that perhaps the R&D at the companies that make the product actually have tested their juice, and maybe even know what they are doing when they tell us how and when to apply it. Just a thought!

 

[Michael Vernon]

Short Answer - Depends on the protector.

Depends on RTU or Dilutable

Generally - water based protectors apply better to damp carpet.

Solvent based protectors apply better to dry carpet.

However, Solvent based protectors when applied to damp carpet
will decrease the drying times - sometimes dramatically.

2 hour dry times are becoming the accepted norm by
most residential customers.

Michael Vernon
hbccoldpro@aol.com

 

[Greenie]

ROFLMAO! Fred is killing me.

Good to see you post Mike, and yes it's good to have some Britt Chem-who posters too.

Since everyone is "steam cleaning" these days....it's liek one big fat dysfunctional family.

Tell me Emily, what machine do you use to extract with?

 

[bob vawter]

there was a protectant that had would reduce the water surface tension to allow it to flow around the fibres. Needs more water when its dry so as to wet the fibres.
Its better to apply to wet carpet.

surface tension

DANG..Mr Werner is finally right about sumthin'..........

 

[emilyjohn]

why not visit the website and find out for yourself? :wink:

 

[Larry Cobb]

Generally - water based protectors apply better to damp carpet.

Solvent based protectors apply better to dry carpet.

However, Solvent based protectors when applied to damp carpet
will decrease the drying times - sometimes dramatically.

2 hour dry times are becoming the accepted norm by
most residential customers.

Michael Vernon

Mike;

Not correct ; Solvent-based protectors work very well on dry or damp carpet.
Solvent-based protectors displace the moisture on damp carpet.

That is how they achieve shorter drying times.

Larry

P.S. Harry H. tested quite a few of the protectors.