The Apex Vs. The Titan 575...Which one would you choose?

[BIG WOOD]

Both of them seem like a solid work horse. I've used the Titan myself, and I love that setup. But the Apex has a strong back also. Who's used both? Or who had to choose between the two and why did you choose the one over the other?

 

[SamIam]

In Vegas last year the Titan 575 out performed a 570 and a Butler with a 12 flow wand 195 Atw.

Not sure how the apex would fair, not tested.

 

[mirf]

I have not used the 575 but own apex diesel. Very strong great heat.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Which one does you local distributor sell? Apex is a good unit, I don't know enough about the Titan to compare.

Contact Doyle Bloss with Hydramaster, he is a straight shooter. Laura Ortbahn also with Prochem, she won't lie to you...me yes. You no.

 

[laura@legendbrands]

Laura Ortbahn also with Prochem, she won't lie to you...me yes. You no.

Hey now Cowboy. I never lie. I may not be nice. But I keep it real, son. (Insert hipster voice).

@Matt Wood give me a call if you have any questions for a pesky used car sales (wo)man as @Desk Jockey likes to refer to me as. Your question was directed to owner / operators and I have may have a sliiiightly biased opinion on which model I prefer

 

[Desk Jockey]

LOL

You forgot "you're never wrong ".

This list of "Never's" is getting quite long don't you think?

 

[BIG WOOD]

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Hey now Cowboy. I never lie. I may not be nice. But I keep it real, son. (Insert hipster voice).

@Matt Wood give me a call if you have any questions for a pesky used car sales (wo)man as @Desk Jockey likes to refer to me as. Your question was directed to owner / operators and I have may have a sliiiightly biased opinion on which model I prefer

Thanks for reaching out to give me your input. I couldn't see your digits in this reply, so here's mine 706-491-7530 . I'll be on the road after 9am eastern time and should be able to chat all day.

 

[Desk Jockey]

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@laura@prochem

She is a sweet gurl....when she wants to be. Now and then....with gaps of time between those moments.

 

[Glynn]

I have a Titan 575, its now done almost 4000 hours, it has NEVER broke down & it has never had any faults apart from a them pump diaphragm.
It hasnt even had the belts off or even adjusted yet .
The heat is the hottest Ive ever seen on any truckmount.
It never dumps any water and has a full divert system inc blower exhaust.

If I were buying another machine it would definitely be another 575.

 

[SamIam]

The el Diablo , PC 650 , SS 870 and Aerotech were all 20 degrees or more hotter at the wand. Still in it's range it's awesome. Without an alternative heat source.

 

[dealtimeman]

Apex

 

[Desk Jockey]

Everest!

 

[BIG WOOD]

What temperature at the wand does the Apex hold on a normal carpet job?

 

[ruff]

Most beneficial path, is to go to the service department of the dealer that sells both and ask which ones comes back the least for repairs.

Dependability, in my book, trumps all the minor differences in water recovery and temp.

But then.........I've never been a glorified janitor

 

[BIG WOOD]

Most beneficial path, is to go to the service department of the dealer that sells both and ask which ones comes back the least for repairs.

Dependability, in my book, trumps all the minor differences in water recovery and temp.

But then.........I've never been a glorified janitor

My service dude is cheering for the Titan.

 

[ruff]

As an honest advise or for employment security?

 

[SamIam]

They seem to have the same motor and similar blowers, most dealers in SoCal push prochem but that's what they're used to working on.

 

[Desk Jockey]

True. We've been using Prochem for two decades. They've been very dependable machines even as they've aged.

People shouldn't use age to judge by!






I am Mighty!

 

[Glynn]

Why would you want a machine with old HX technology that dumps water all the time when you could have a dump less system, meaning your fresh tank is effectively bigger and you can carry less weight due to not needing as much fresh water ?.

 

[hogjowl]

Which is which?

 

[Mark Saiger]

Here are those temps I have in my planner

Everest 12 flow 210
6 Flow 225

Butler 12 flow 185
6 flow 200

El Diablo 12 flow 210 fuel fired
6 flow 240

Cleanco 12 flow 175
6 flow 190

Sapphire scientific
370 12 flow 120
6 flow

570 12 flow 185
6 flow 210

1200 SE 12 flow 180
6 flow 200

870 12 flow 225
6 flow 230

Aero tech
12 flow 250
6 flow 248

Hydra Master 575
12 flow 195
6 flow 170

Hydra Master direct drive 220 12 flow with their gauge
12 flow 175
6 flow 180

Hydrmaster 423
12 flow 150
6 flow 185

 

[Nampa Carpet Cleaning]

6 Flow on the Titan 575 is only 170 ? The 370 holds arounds 190 with 6 flow.... 400 PSI

Interesting. I would like to see the same chart for actual CFM testing.

Were you constant on or using on / off like carpet cleaning normally is ?

 

[SamIam]

6 Flow on the Titan 575 is only 170 ? The 370 holds arounds 190 with 6 flow.... 400 PSI

Interesting. I would like to see the same chart for actual CFM testing.

Were you constant on or using on / off like carpet cleaning normally is ?

Ya and at 12 flow its 195 so something is way off there

 

[SamIam]

No other machine drops when going down someone needs to say maybe something is off with that.

 

[Glynn]

Every 575 Titan Ive seen will hold at least 230 on 6 flow during normal cleaning, its the hottest .

 

[BIG WOOD]

Every 575 Titan Ive seen will hold at least 230 on 6 flow during normal cleaning, its the hottest .

I think that was either a type error, or a titan that had a bypass problem when it was shooting less water. When I used a titan with my mach12 at 6flow, I was reading 220 at the wand at 500psi. I never used a 12flow, so I couldn't tell you what that read

 

[Nampa Carpet Cleaning]

Matt, are you buying a new machine ? I though you already have a relatively new HM Boxer with a 47 Blower ?

 

[BIG WOOD]

Matt, are you buying a new machine ? I though you already have a relatively new HM Boxer with a 47 Blower ?

I'm just brainstorming for future purchases

 

[Desk Jockey]

Kevin Fine the "Other" Prochem rep, the nice one! @laura@prochem He had an Everest running there in Atlanta.

Matt did you get a chance to use it on the test carpet? That puppy was screaming hot and had killer vacuum and it was 150 feet away.

 

[mwall2230]

I love my 870 with that 225 degrees at 12 flow.