Urine trouble on rugs...

[LisaWagnerCRS]

More and more I'm being asked how to get the odor out of rugs... usually from cleaners who are surface cleaning them over and over again, and not getting to the source of the problem (in those inner most cotton fibers).

So my post this week is about pets and rugs, and how to get the odor out.

CLICK HERE => http://bit.ly/petpee

Here's a rug that's got some serious problems... well, it's a rug that lives with a pet with serious problems.

Look at the corner. Not just dye migration, but complete dye loss in some areas (probably from attempts at cleaning), and it does have signs of mildew and dry rot on the back side.

She wanted the rug saved though.... washed and the odor removed.

You guys got any photos of damage like this? We don't get it this severe that often, our clients are quick to wash when an accident happens.

Hope you like the post,
Lisa

 

[ACE]

:roll: Thanks Lisa.

Almost as pointless as your post about potted plants.

What are your brainstorming on now? UV damage, Moths, oh what about chlorine bleach damage?

 

[Chris A]

Thanks Lisa, I've just made the transition from surface cleaning rugs onto washing in our shop, and I need all the help I can get...

 

[LisaWagnerCRS]

:roll: Thanks Lisa.

Almost as pointless as your post about potted plants.

What are your brainstorming on now? UV damage, Moths, oh what about chlorine bleach damage?

Well Mike... I know you already know it ALL - but not everyone is as smart and charming as you are. So, the post was to help them.

Hey... at least I'm sharing some tips cleaners can use. I look forward to you doing the same some day. :shock:

Lisa

P.S. Thanks Chris. :mrgreen:

 

[Billy Russell]

:roll: Thanks Lisa.

Almost as pointless as your post about potted plants.

What are your brainstorming on now? UV damage, Moths, oh what about chlorine bleach damage?

Well Mike... I know you already know it ALL - but not everyone is as smart and charming as you are. So, the post was to help them.

Hey... at least I'm sharing some tips cleaners can use. I look forward to you doing the same some day. :shock:

Lisa

P.S. Thanks Chris. :mrgreen:

haha!!!!! I liked that

 

[Ken Snow]

Great article Lisa- I actually read the whole thing~ a rarity for me :-)

 

[LisaWagnerCRS]

Great article Lisa- I actually read the whole thing~ a rarity for me :-)

I tried to put in lots of PICTURES this time. =) Though... I knew if I had one good dog photo you'd read the whole thing. LOL

I'm sure you guys get some pet damaged rugs through your plant. Any tips to share from the Hagopian front?

Thanks for taking the time to read it, and post, I appreciate it.

Lisa

 

[Desk Jockey]

Doesn't it make you sick when people allow their pets to ruin pieces of art like that?

My brother Dan use to be our rug guy and I was the upholstery cleaner, we spent a few years working several feet from one another and I was always amazed at how some rugs were just being ruined by pets.

He was always so proud of his work, just to razz him I'd tell him I don't know why you're working so hard on them. People are just going to walk on them and allow their pets to piss and sh*t on them. :mrgreen:

Man that would get him going, but it was true. If their child did it, they would be very angry. Their dog? Well he had "an accident."

It didn't look like an accident, seems like they were hitting that rug with regularity! :shock:

:mrgreen:

 

[GCP]

:roll: Thanks Lisa.

Almost as pointless as your post about potted plants.

What are your brainstorming on now? UV damage, Moths, oh what about chlorine bleach damage?

Well Mike... I know you already know it ALL - but not everyone is as smart and charming as you are. So, the post was to help them.

Hey... at least I'm sharing some tips cleaners can use. I look forward to you doing the same some day. :shock:

Lisa

P.S. Thanks Chris. :mrgreen:

:mrgreen: hey lisa i really liked tht come back lmfao... but i will be sure to be in contact with you about bringing area rugs in shop for cleaning.... thanks for the knowledge n tips that we all may not have yet..

 

[Giorgio]

Thanks Lisa!

I always enjoy reading your articles and posts.

 

[rhyde]

Still waiting for the after pics

 

[handdi]

thanks lisa

 

[ACE]

Still waiting for the after pics

Exactly!

Lisa just goes on and on about how urine damages rugs and gives little useful advice on how to actually restore piss soaked rugs.

It appears Lisa may have plagiarized some content from Ruth Travis’ recent, much better written article on odor published in the Cleaning Specialist. http://www.icsmag.com/Articles/Feature_ ... 0001033867

 

[Guest]

Hello Ace,
I just compared Lisa’s article to the one by Ruth Travis. They are very different articles and if Lisa lifted anything I do not see it. I like Lisa and Ruth; I am friendly with both of them but not particularly close with either. So I have no horse in this race.
So if you have a borrowed paragraph or even a sentence, post it. If all you have is that they both wrote about urine stained rugs then that is pretty sad. Where I come from charges of plagiarism are very serious and a gentleman would never make charges like that casually.
With skepticism,
Barry O’Connell
www.SpongoBongo.com

 

[Guest]

Hello,
I hope I made it clear that I do not think Lisa is a plagiarist. But how good is her article?
Lisa emphasizes washing the urine out. If anything I would have spent a little more time on that. Urine odor comes from urine salts soaked and dried through the rug. Lisa mentions the absorbency of cotton in the foundation of most hand woven rugs. She is absolutely correct. A crucial part of the problem is that to remove the odor you need to dissolve the urine salts crystals all the way through the rug especially in the foundation. She mentions the need for an acidic wash and she mentions some excellent products to use. One problem many washers have is that they do not spend enough time dissolving the salts in the wash process. The salts are a crystalline structure which reminds me of very tiny rock candy in nature. The acidic cleaners in the wash take one layer off the salts at a time. Now salts are harder to dissolve than rock candy but if you picture the rock candy crystals it would take repeated flushing to wear away and dissolve the sugar crystals. Urine salts crystals take a great deal more work but the same basic concept.

This is a tedious time consuming process that takes a great deal of flushing. One small blessing in urine stains is the presence of two natural dyes, one yellow and one yellow green. I call it a blessing because the dyes show us the presence of remaining urine salts in the rug. So as long as there is even a trace of yellow in the rinse water our job is not done. For those of you with a Rug Revolution with the flushing feature prolonged flush and spin evacuation can do a good job of dissolving the urine salts. Of course a centrifuge is not necessary but it certainly is a help if you have one. So over all I would have emphasized the dissolving, flushing, evacuation more than Lisa did. But she hits the key points and the only difference is in emphasis not in content.
The ability to deal with urine is the difference between a rug washer and a great rug washer. For those of you who are still mastering greatness Lisa has give all of us a very valuable article.
Best wishes,
Barry O’Connell
www.SpongoBongo.com

 

[rhyde]

:shock:

I took a look and can't say that it was plagiarism then again I can't read and i'm easily distracted by pictures and colorful objects sooo..?

it's not a huge subject so rugs N urine talk after awhile tends to sound like stuff you've heard it before

 

[XTREME1]

I was having issues with a couple expensive saturated rugs that I thought came out great but my customer wasn't as happy. The Smell was gone and it was soft and fluffy and she was trying to point out issues that I didn't see and after looking stiull didn't see. I was sure if the way I handle the urine soaked rugs is the right way.

I flush them repeatedly with water, ring them and flush them. I have a pitched piece of polished concrete that we flush rugs on is this the wrong way? should it be done on a flat surface?

 

[Guest]

What is her complaint, color, texture, smell?
I will defer to the ral experts but what you did sounds reasonable to me. A little acid in the rinse can be a good thing. Urine tends to go alkaline and plays hell with the colors so a light acid brings the PH back into a safe level.
I have been talking to one of the Chemical manufacturers about a new formulation for an acid rinse that I thought up. Since I need spell check to even spell “Chemistry” I am the perfect guy to advise the professionals.