What am I trying to say here..

[Mikey P]

VLM
Shampoo
Encap
Bonnet..



What ever you want to call it, what ever gadget, pad, brush or juice you want to perform it with, you better have a damn good understanding and ability to predict how the carpet is going to look once it's dried.


How do you develop that ability to predict? Like anything else, practice.

I had a job here in NV yesterday with a ten year old glue down nylon that has never been cleaned. Nothing horrible but some traffic lanes bad enough to get them to finally do something about it.
I used a combo of CRB with catch trays, Dry vacuuming, Cimex, some HWE and finally a post padding with blue micros. 2000 ft, steps for $1140 in about 4 hours.



My guys did this one yesterday as well for $2800. The trade school has had a slow down in attendance so they went almost three years with out having us out. Look at their account recap, all but one time w'eve encapped it in one way or another. Hose runs and noise prohibit HWE.

How much have my guys and I learned from an account like this?




think about it.... We've been doing it since 2001........

Such a huge factor on why I bought the 370 and all the room it comes with.

I guess what got me up early on this fine Sunday was me worrying about all these newbs I see being sold on a single machine or method that does it all.



In other words I got a call from Guerkink yesterday morning that I refused to answer. He wanted in at MF.......

 

[Jimmy L]

SHOCKING! SUB ATOMIC PARTICLES! COLLOIDAL SILVER! NANO CHEMISTRY ALIEN TECHNOLOGY!
ENCAPSULATION! FILM FORMING PSYCHO ADHESION ! FREE RADICAL CRYSTALIZING POLYMERS!

SECRET GARAGE FLOOR TESTING OF ENCAPSULATION SCAMPOOS!
THE PLANET "X" FACTOR!

HOW RELIGION IS CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET SCAMPOO MAKERS!

EVIL!

OH MY GAWD!

 

[Larry Cobb]

I had a job here in NV yesterday with a ten year old glue down nylon that has never been cleaned. Nothing horrible but some traffic lanes bad enough to get them to finally do something about it.
I used a combo of CRB with catch trays, Dry vacuuming, Cimex, some HWE and finally a post padding with blue micros. 2000 ft, steps for $1140 in about 4 hours.

OK, I'll ask . . .

Sometimes it is hard to know what is on the backing of a direct glue down.

How did you deal with the inevitable streaking from HWE in the heavily soiled areas ?

Was the post padding done dry, or with an encap ?

 

[Old Coastie]

On my commercial accounts, I encap. Every fourth visit, I extract. They all give up a completely black ink. Not brown, not dirty-ish, it looks like squid ink. I think it is the unvacuumed encap concentrating soils and oils and mildew at the fiber bottom.

There is no magic bullet, just common sense and hard work.

 

[Desk Jockey]

How many screw drivers do you have in your tool box? Short handle, mid length, long handle, ratcheting, swivel. Phillips, straight blade, hex torque.

The more options you have the better. You can adjust your cleaning to the project.

One tool will work great at times and not so much others times. The concern I see is in those not so much situations the cleaner will assume he did all he could. Not so. With the one tool approach you fool yourself that there are not better options.

We see this regularly. We gain new clients that are so impressed with the results we delivered. Not because we are so great, but because we applied the best tool for the project at hand.

Do what is right for yourself and your company but keep an open mind that there are always options.

 

[ruff]

It is all about striking the right balance within reason. Sure. Having a zillion task specific tools is great , yet not practical for the typical owner operator both for financial (return on investment) and space wise. It may work well for multi van outfits, but only when the need is known in advance so you can plan for it.

Therefore we find what works best for us. Some would rather have less tool and easier access (otherwise they don't come out), some would rather have every tool, some more chemicals. All legitimate reasons. You find the best compromise combo that works for you.

All the above mentioned jobs will can be performed practically as well with a 175 and a good flushing tool. Will take longer. I, for example, considering space limitations etc. would rather have a stronger hotter TM than add one more need specific scrubbing tool.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Sooo Ofer space is more important than better cleaning?

(Fishing..fishing..hooked!)

 

[Nate The Great]

How many screw drivers do you have in your tool box? Short handle, mid length, long handle, ratcheting, swivel. Phillips, straight blade, hex torque.

The more options you have the better. You can adjust your cleaning to the project.

One tool will work great at times and not so much others times. The concern I see is in those not so much situations the cleaner will assume he did all he could. Not so. With the one tool approach you fool yourself that there are not better options.

We see this regularly. We gain new clients that are so impressed with the results we delivered. Not because we are so great, but because we applied the best tool for the project at hand.

Do what is right for yourself and your company but keep an open mind that there are always options.

I like options, that's why I'm not married... Why commit to one, when variety is better?!?

 

[ruff]

Sooo Ofer space is more important than better cleaning?

(Fishing..fishing..hooked!)

Not biting.
Rookie!
Try again.

 

[Cleanworks]

How many screw drivers do you have in your tool box? Short handle, mid length, long handle, ratcheting, swivel. Phillips, straight blade, hex torque.

The more options you have the better. You can adjust your cleaning to the project.

One tool will work great at times and not so much others times. The concern I see is in those not so much situations the cleaner will assume he did all he could. Not so. With the one tool approach you fool yourself that there are not better options.

We see this regularly. We gain new clients that are so impressed with the results we delivered. Not because we are so great, but because we applied the best tool for the project at hand.

Do what is right for yourself and you company but keep an open mind that there are always options.

Some guys just have a hammer and when that doesn't work, they feel that they need a bigger hammer. Higher ph, higher heat, more vacuum, etc. Sometimes it's better to try a different approach. I did an optical retail shop a while ago with the Sprayborg and an o2 Encap. Direct glue down with a huge coffee stain. Came out immaculate. Much better compared to hwe which we have used in the past and faster.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Not biting.
Rookie!
Try again.

Sure ruin a guys fun.

 

[Nate The Great]

Lace that hook with Hummus and for sure a catch!

 

[ruff]

Sorry.
For whatever its worth, I still think you're mytee-.......ish.

 

[ruff]

Yea. Put some humus on it.
Extra spicy and don't forget some fava beans, olive oil and pita.

 

[Desk Jockey]

See you never reel them in right away. You have to give him a little line before you put any tension on it.

 

[ruff]

I feel the tension.

 

[Desk Jockey]

LOL

 

[hogjowl]

I don’t have screwdrivers in my tool box
And this is a DAT

 

[Jimmy L]

Hope it wasn't encapucleanO2 garbage

 

[Sierra Clean Care]

I like options, that's why I'm not married... Why commit to one, when variety is better?!?

Uhhhh...... V.D. are a good argument...... and when the wife's not into it, just switch hands.....

 

[Russ T.]

I bought my Cimex the same Summer as my 360i, it must have been 4-5 years ago now. I had about zero experience running either of them but both have transformed my thinking.

The options, with years of experience with them, are what sets the best apart.

I remember sitting on the beach in Clearwater and hearing Justin F talk about laying prespray down with his Cimex, and then Zipper or wand rinse.

You will dominate your competition with these kinds of options and understanding to match.

 

[Mikey P]

 

[Mikey P]

OK, I'll ask . . .

Sometimes it is hard to know what is on the backing of a direct glue down. Correct, lots of questions naturally and observance that only come with years of experience and observance in the field.

How did you deal with the inevitable streaking from HWE in the heavily soiled areas, Why do you say inevitable? Streaking is caused by poor technique, crappy equipment and improper dry soil removal. None of which were a concern with my kick ass 370/Devastator 2.5 combo

Was the post padding done dry, or with an encap ? Encap soaked Blue Micro

 

[Mikey P]

btw, the pic above was taken here....

https://goo.gl/maps/h3TnGLwRAVJ2

 

[hogjowl]

Why is South Sister north?

 

[Mikey P]

She must not be of the Patterson kin...

 

[Jimmy L]

Are you two speaking some kind of monkey language?

 

[hogjowl]

Is that as humorous as you can be today?

 

[Jimmy L]

Well being that my mother inlaw is probably dying in the hospital and my sister having heart surgery oct 9 , .......yeah that's the best I can do.

 

[hogjowl]

You’re just pissed cuz the funeral will be during football season