Who answers majority of the TMF Members business lines?

[Mikey P]

Continuing my series of Lets Bash the Industry Email Bullshittters..

Got a email from my little buddy Tre today.

Claims he has over 8600 members now!
Wow :!:

Then goes on to claim Full Circle answers THE MAJORITY of TMF members phones now.


Well on this planet's math system the majority of 8600 would be at least 6000?
Right? !gotcha!

OK lets be very conservative and figured Tre meant 5000 and just had one too many Red Bulls this morning.


Tre I hate to tell you this but..


YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT!


Full Circle has 80 clients.

Eight ZERO!

80 total.



So what other outrageous numbers are you lying about?

31 thousand readers??

I dont think this country has more than 25,000 cleaners total. :shock:

And I'd bet 19,000 of them dont' know how to use a Mouse let alone pay a monthly internet bill.


Didn't your father teach you not to lie?



oh,



yeah...

 

[LisaWagnerCRS]

So... don't know if the Allens read your board here Mike... but if they do, and it's true that Full Circle disclosed company client data of a competitor to you to then share publicly... well, I'd think the Allens should consider not endorsing them any longer.

I mean seriously, what kind of a "partner" does something like that? I would be livid if Full Circle did that to me. That's just bad business.

Lisa

P.S. There are 45,000 cleaning companies focused on full-time residential carpet cleaning in the US, many more jan-san (janitorial industry is HUGE - that is why Cintas is tapping into that end through their existing accounts, and why they want the commercial carpet cleaning, and are not worried about residential). But I do not see the same demo of cleaners at TMF than I do here. You guys are not battling over the same people - and your vendors are not choosing between you and "them." At least they shouldn't be. TMF targets lots of obscure sub-niches of cleaning, from auto detailing to jan-san to window washing. It's not 8600 carpet cleaners.

 

[Mikey P]

you read that wrong Perky.


Full Circle has 80 clients. Total.


I have no idea who many of them if any, are TMF members.

Keep in mind they told me this two weeks ago so that number may have to be adjusted up or down.




Now dont be hating on my Girls just because you're in bed with that rip off Perceptionist garbage.

 

[amazingcleansc]

Continuing my series of Lets Bash the Industry Email Bullshittters..

Full Circle has 80 clients.

Eight ZERO!

Holy shit how many employees do they have? They should be doing just fine.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

I never read those emails.

 

[LisaWagnerCRS]

you read that wrong Perky.


Full Circle has 80 clients. Total.


I have no idea who many of them if any, are TMF members.

Keep in mind they told me this two weeks ago so that number may have to be adjusted up or down.




Now dont be hating on my Girls just because you're in bed with that rip off Perceptionist garbage.

Thanks for clearing that up. I read it as you saying there were 80 TMF company clients. (Why is Full Circle telling you the size of their client list?)

I have nothing bad to say about Full Circle - and Perceptionist is just one of several companies we recommend for call services. And our members are happy with them, so that's all I care about.

Sorry for the mix-up,
Lisa

 

[Mikey P]

Why did they tell me?





probably because the majority of that 80 is from MB.... shiteatinggrin

 

[randy]

Why does anything like this shock anyone anymore? Those guys have been making bizarre claims that don't add up for a long time.

The 45,000 figure was before the recession. With the number of cleaners that have gone under or "become inactive" and the lack of new blood coming into the industry the last few years, I'm betting the total number carpet cleaning businesses still in business is closer to 30,000. Sure you can buy a list of 45,000 carpet cleaning companies but I bet lots of those come back undeliverable. Never in my twenty years in this industry have I seen the number of carpet cleaners close up as we are today. The metro DC area is supposed to be "recession proof" but tons of cleaners have folded here. My favorite local distributor closed up two years ago, Interlink just bought out Cleaner's closet (all four locations). Times have changed and for the cleaners still here, pat yourself on the back. Then the next time you are at Connections look to the cleaner on your right & the cleaner or your left. By the time the next Connections rolls around one or both of them will be gone. Time to really focus on cost control, quality service and effective marketing.The basics will never fail you.

 

[Mikey P]

Great reply Randy, thanks!

 

[Mikey P]

is your name really Randy?

 

[Royal Man]

Tre is full of crap. What's new?

Those guys never change. Like father like son.

 

[Ken Snow]

Personally I have no clue how many cleaners there are but I believe Randy has it exactly backwards. A poor economy tends to cause layoffs, buyouts etc. from manufacturing industries as we have sure seen in Detroit. This puts a lot of men, who are theoretically able bodied, out of work and often with a little cash in their pocket. Carpet cleaning is a low cost of entry business and usually the number of cleaners spikes at these times- it sure has here.

 

[XTREME1]

I agree with you Ken but how many actually advertise or get any real work? Obamas 99 week unemployment has ****** America

 

[Ken Snow]

That is the f'd up beauty of it for them. As private business owners they won't report it to unemployment so they get their weekly government check plus clean some carpet.

Probably some will survive and most fail like any start up businesses.

 

[renegade_cowboy]

Its all for sho. Some people with low self esteem like to project success unto others.... we got a local guy who does the same thing.

 

[XTREME1]

GUILTY I like to pretend my family is doing okay and we are on food stamps and in foreclosure any help is appreciated

 

[John Olson]

IDAGS.......time you shouldn't either..... Ivebeensold Ivebeensold

 

[dealtimeman]

Its all for sho. Some people with low self esteem like to project success unto others.... we got a local guy who does the same thing.

Who's that?

 

[XTREME1]

i'm not local I live across the country. Every thread is about me or robison

 

[sweendogg]

i'm not local I live across the country. Every thread is about me or robison

Can this one be about your right chest Hair.. the left hair is wearing us thin!
:mrgreen:

 

[Dmreed4311]

Continuing my series of Lets Bash the Industry Email Bullshittters..

Got a email from my little buddy Tre today.

Claims he has over 8600 members now!
Wow :!:

Then goes on to claim Full Circle answers THE MAJORITY of TMF members phones now.


Well on this planet's math system the majority of 8600 would be at least 6000?
Right? !gotcha!

OK lets be very conservative and figured Tre meant 5000 and just had one too many Red Bulls this morning.


Tre I hate to tell you this but..


YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT!


Full Circle has 80 clients.

Eight ZERO!

80 total.



So what other outrageous numbers are you lying about?

31 thousand readers??

I dont think this country has more than 25,000 cleaners total. :shock:

And I'd bet 19,000 of them dont' know how to use a Mouse let alone pay a monthly internet bill.


Didn't your father teach you not to lie?



oh,



yeah...

Show the email, If you are gonna trash someone, back it up by showing the email.

 

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[sweendogg]

I got the same email

Not made up.

 

[Becker]

Im liking the wed night chats here!

Thanks Mike..

When will I hot seat it?

 

[sam miller]

Ya I got it twice right before I got Mike's CTI Class invite.

As for less cleaner because of recession I know a few have dropped but it seems like there's a lot of newbs jumping in all the time!

8600 members, 400 posts daily, 31000 monthly readers to what ICS, Cleanfax ads??? or hits on the site?

Maybe the header is to all these organizations and the specials apply to all???

 

[Mikey P]

8600 members, 400 posts daily, 31000 monthly

400 posts, maybe once in a while the rest are all trumped up numbers figuring no one knows the Web like Tre does....

 

[sam miller]

Who answers majority of the TMF Members business lines? Well Full Circle Member of course! No need for a local receptionist!

Its more a spin for full circle service. 8600 members, most I see your point.

My fear would be if these guys had 80 different customers and answered live each call who's to say they wouldnt quote Mike P prices to one of my Customers and Kill somebody?

 

[Lee Stockwell]

You can only hope.