CanadianRuss
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White olefin I've tried stain magic. Not much luck. Should I try a spray of ammonia?
Yellow stain problem
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White olefin I've tried stain magic. Not much luck. Should I try a spray of ammonia?
Kellie Hiler
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As long as you rinsed the stain magic out thoroughly I'd say try an oxidizer on it.
Mikey P
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Stain Magic is 1/2 Peroxide, 1/2 Ammonia with some Lye added in for some forsytihian reason.
Did you try letting it dwell overnight?
If so, rinse it out and try a reducer next (Red Relief)
Did you try letting it dwell overnight?
If so, rinse it out and try a reducer next (Red Relief)
CanadianRuss
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Okay Mike. I did let it dwell all day. No change. I'll try a reducer today. Thanks.
Mikey P
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Rinse real well first
CanadianRuss
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Okay will do.
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Russ I'm fairly certain that is a stain from an oily material. Did anyone try to get gum, tar, or any other type of oily spot out with a citrus solvent at that place? If its a commercial carpet, that's 90% of what they use for a solvent spotter.
If that's what it is, you might need to work with a spotter that can break down an oil, and emulsify it so you can remove it with HWE.
If that's what it is, you might need to work with a spotter that can break down an oil, and emulsify it so you can remove it with HWE.
CanadianRuss
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Hi Jim
My problem is the spot is unknown. It is on an area rug (olefin). It has been process of elimination. So would you suggest pros solve followed with power gel?
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If you have those two products, yes try them. If its an oily stain, it should work, or at least greatly improve it.
Wet the area and see if you get an "orangy" smell
Kellie Hiler
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Is my advice of trying an oxidizer wrong? Im asking because we have had this issue before and used it and it worked fine, but I am sure it can depend on what the spot is in the first place?
CanadianRuss
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No Kellie your not wrong. Stain magic is an oxidizer. I already tried that. No success. Moving forward now to other means. Again you are right if you know what the nature of the spot or stain, it can make removal a lot easier.
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Kellie Hiler
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But Stain Magic is an oxidizer that you rinse out, I am talking about a product like Urine Stain Remover where you spray and walk, let it work as its drying...We have had trouble spots that wouldn't clean out with Stain magic or Red Relief, so after a very thorough rinsing we sprayed USR and walked away. And the spot would many times disappear within a day.
Mikey P
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To be honest, our first attempt if our pre spray had not worked would have been "40 and Fels"
and no, that is not Snoop Dawg's cocktail of choice..
and no, that is not Snoop Dawg's cocktail of choice..
Mikey P
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Fels cuts oils very well.
hogjowl
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Fels and rinse
Red Stain remover and steam from a wall paper steamer. NOT AN IRON!
Cobs Dye Stain remover
In that order.
Red Stain remover and steam from a wall paper steamer. NOT AN IRON!
Cobs Dye Stain remover
In that order.
Kellie Hiler
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I keep hearing about that Fels....gotta get me some!
Spurlington
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I like using Stain Zone. Ive had pretty good luck with it.
Kellie Hiler
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We use Stain Zone as well, but we like the Pros Choice USR because it works amazing and you can buy it by the gallon which only costs $20.00.
Big money saver. I wish Stain Zone could be bought by the gallon as well.
Big money saver. I wish Stain Zone could be bought by the gallon as well.
Goomer
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I always assumed that any high heat stain removal process should always be last in any sequence due to the possibility of further setting the stain, and is to be considered a last resort.
Makes sense to rule out oil/grease first with a citrus/degreaser/POG spotting product as they are the most common type of spot, then try something a little stronger like a solvent spotter or All-Solve type product.
You might want to try a coffee/tea/tannin spotter on that one by the looks of it.
If no luck oxidizer next, and only if all else fails, an attempt at dye removal using heat.
If no luck after all that, then I would consider it likely permanent.
Judging from the pictures, that carpet looks like that really soft stuff I have come across a few times before, so be really careful with heat and agitation and avoid working it too much as the fibers tend to easily get distorted and look frayed if you beat it up too aggressively.
Looking closely at the pic, the fibers may already be getting a little funky so take it easy.
CanadianRuss
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Thanks, for the tips.
Barry-QDCC
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I must be a crappy, uncaring carpet cleaner. From the picture that spot doesn't look very big and after trying a few things quickly I'd move on and tell the homeowner it's not coming out.
Do all you guys charge to spend as much time as it sounds like you'd spend on such a spot?
Do all you guys charge to spend as much time as it sounds like you'd spend on such a spot?
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SamIam
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If it's not pet then coffee stain remover from masterblend it's the same thing as chemspecs metabisulfite.
Or Marty's plan of action sounds solid to.
Or Marty's plan of action sounds solid to.
You shouldn't have an issue leaving stain magic/peroxide behind. Many times it can take hours for it to work.
Reducers, the same thing(take time). Reducer type stains I'll try to treat as soon as I get there. So I can hopefully see some type of change before done w/job.
The pros choice usr is a nice product, I've always got a gallon on the truck.
Really... As long as it's synthetic carpet your stain magic isn't going to hurt anything.
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