Dmreed4311
Supportive Member
He is sending letters to any carpet cleaner with this phrase on thier site telling them to remove it or he will sue!
He trademarked it on 3/12/12
He trademarked it on 3/12/12
Greg Cole has trademarked "pet package"
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Lee Stockwell
FOJL
That's not the phrase I think he should have trademarked...
Shane Deubell
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Word Mark PET PACKAGE
Goods and Services IC 037. US 100 103 106. G & S: Carpet cleaning and deodorizing, namely, removal of urine stains and odors. FIRST USE: 19990331. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19990331
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 85278265
Filing Date March 28, 2011
Current Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Published for Opposition December 27, 2011
Registration Number 4111163
Registration Date March 13, 2012
Owner (REGISTRANT) Professional Carpet & Upholstery Care, Inc. CORPORATION GEORGIA 1831 West Oak Parkway, Suite A Marietta GEORGIA 30062
Attorney of Record Amanda G. Hyland
Disclaimer NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "PACKAGE" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL-2(F)
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE
Goods and Services IC 037. US 100 103 106. G & S: Carpet cleaning and deodorizing, namely, removal of urine stains and odors. FIRST USE: 19990331. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19990331
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 85278265
Filing Date March 28, 2011
Current Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Published for Opposition December 27, 2011
Registration Number 4111163
Registration Date March 13, 2012
Owner (REGISTRANT) Professional Carpet & Upholstery Care, Inc. CORPORATION GEORGIA 1831 West Oak Parkway, Suite A Marietta GEORGIA 30062
Attorney of Record Amanda G. Hyland
Disclaimer NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "PACKAGE" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL-2(F)
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE
Mikey P
Administrator
What a royal douche.
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FB7777
Guest
Bane Clene has a few trademark phrases as well
"under-powered" should be one of them
"under-powered" should be one of them
Becker
Member
Mikey P said:
For trademarking? Or for letter sending?
Doug Cox
Supportive Member
OMG!! No Shit.Lee Stockwell said:
Fred Boyle said:
LOL, Fred
Royal Man
Member
Must be to go after Ben Surdi.
Call Pure Clean Now and find out more about our Pet Package.
I personally don't care about his pet's package.
Call Pure Clean Now and find out more about our Pet Package.
I personally don't care about his pet's package.
Royal Man
Member
When looking up coles trademark I found this slogan that a cleaner trademarked:
"XXX carpet cleaning...Because no one wants to be called a pig.TM"
Who would want to steal that slogan?
THought it was funny as hell!!
"XXX carpet cleaning...Because no one wants to be called a pig.TM"
Who would want to steal that slogan?
THought it was funny as hell!!
Eric Valentine
Member
was it Marty that trademarked that?Royal Man said:
Mikey P
Administrator
Becker said:
Yes.
KevinL
Supportive Member
When I use to sell Rainbow vacuums years ago, my boss would tell potential customers during a home demonstration, there are only 2 kinds of people who don't buy a Rainbow, dirt poor people and filthy pigs. Nice guy. Went out of business a few months later.
I don't see this flying, the first person that he actually sues will be the last. Google pet package and tell me this is going to fly. In fact a very large multi-national hotel has a pet package involving urine removal. Sure, they are going to roll over for a bait n switch rug sucker. Any competent attorney (representing whoever Cole decides to sue) can have Mr. Cole's legal bill north of $50,000 before he even gets to trial. I can think of about 300 interrogatories and 50 pretrial motions right now.
Then there is the pissed off cleaners that get these letters, what's the chance of 5-6 of them writing letters to the criminal investigations unit of the IRS complaining about his misclassification of employees as subcontractors. The IRS has been aggressively cracking down on that and the federal tax code makes it almost impossible to do legally. I have never seen one carpet cleaner that is doing the 1099 thing stay around long. Nor have I seen a cleaner do it legitimately or legally. When the ax falls they bill you for the back taxes going back to day 1 of the business. Game over Mr. cole and fellow "misclassifiers".
By the way if you set the appointment time the technician is legally an employee. If you give him instructions or equipment to use, he is an employee.
Then there is the pissed off cleaners that get these letters, what's the chance of 5-6 of them writing letters to the criminal investigations unit of the IRS complaining about his misclassification of employees as subcontractors. The IRS has been aggressively cracking down on that and the federal tax code makes it almost impossible to do legally. I have never seen one carpet cleaner that is doing the 1099 thing stay around long. Nor have I seen a cleaner do it legitimately or legally. When the ax falls they bill you for the back taxes going back to day 1 of the business. Game over Mr. cole and fellow "misclassifiers".
By the way if you set the appointment time the technician is legally an employee. If you give him instructions or equipment to use, he is an employee.
Ron Werner
Member
I imagine the term "pet package" has been used years before 1999 but since the net wasn't as well used, only local advertisements would have had it. I could see him sending a letter to some cleaner thats been using it since the 80's
Royal Man
Member
Some major hotels use the term pet package.
Honda even offers a pet package
Is that the deep pockets Cole is after, instead of BD carpet cleaners?
To me I don't think the term is that crucial to carpet cleaning
Honda even offers a pet package
Is that the deep pockets Cole is after, instead of BD carpet cleaners?
To me I don't think the term is that crucial to carpet cleaning
Ed
Member
So true. I just posted an article on this over on the now dissappeared ICS board. We are still in the middle of a mess with our State government over 1099's (not for carpet cleaning, but construction/demolition). It has cost us thousands and it ain't over. You are dead on that the IRS has for all intents and purposes made it illegal to use a sub-contractor. If you read the guidelines you wanted to hire a sub contractor, they would have to read your mind, because you cannot give ANY direction, aid, instructions or deadlines to a sub-contractor, otherwise they are deemed an employee.
I don't know how Greg has dodged this bullet for so long. You cannot set a sub-contractor's appointments or the price for the job.
renegade_cowboy
Member
I like that.. "Pet Package".. maybe I will use that for the new price packaging I am working on. Now I can expect getting a C&D letter from Cole and from Surdi.
Mikey P
Administrator
wondering if Cole will have the balls to show his package up here and comment.
Ken Snow
RIP
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1779.pdf
Based on this and the very limited amount I know about Greg's business I would assume he is safe in the IC status he has with the companies he subs to.
Based on this and the very limited amount I know about Greg's business I would assume he is safe in the IC status he has with the companies he subs to.
Brian R
Member
I'm sure Lee will remove the image. But I thought it was funny.
You're such a pet package Lee.
You're such a pet package Lee.
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Greg Cole has trademarked "pet package"
It's your family jewels
It's your family jewels
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FB7777
Guest
Similar pectorals too
Ed
Member
Ken, that readers digest version of independent contractor or not is a 50,000 ft. view at best. I'm telling you from 1st hand experience that there is a lot more to it than that. I can tell you for a fact that Cole gives more instruction to his guys than I did for the subs I used during the hurricane and got nailed for. You absolutely cannot set their schedule (and he does), or price their jobs for them (and he does). Heck, I would be willing to bet that most of his "independent contractors" work almost exclusively, if not exclusively for his company.
As our government speeds toward socialism and bankruptcy, they and states like NY who are broke already, are going to continue to crack down on sub-contrator status. The problem is, too many don't pay their taxes or do not report, so they are closing the loop on it.
Art Kelley
Supportive Member
All I can say is wow. It's not enough he rips off his customers and contractors in whatever region he stinks up, now he wants to screw every legitimate carpet cleaning company in America that has a web site, and he has lawyers to help him along. What a cancer he is. I'm sure Corky will be along shortly to say I'm jealous.
Greg Cole
Member
Mikey P said:
Nothing new to comment on..... Same old people saying the same old shit......
rwcarpet
Supportive Member
I have never, ever put those 2 words together in 35 years of cleaning.
Mikey P
Administrator
gregcole said:
Such a viscous businessman yet such a pussy when it comes to being a man.
Greg Cole
Member
Mikey P said:
Such a viscous businessman yet such a pussy when it comes to being a man.[/quote:320ovetr]
Lol. I guess the opposite can be said for you? A big man on the bulletin board but a pussy in business ? I'm just saying..........
