Moth damage

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  1. Cleanworks
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    Here is a good example of how bad a rug can get when moths get out of control. We offer 2 types of moth treatments. O e is de-mothing where we spray the rug with a pesticide and bag it for a few days before cleaning and the other is Masterblends Repel product which we apply after cleaning. Just wondering who else does de-mothing and what works for you? IMG_20180706_122627.jpg IMG_20180706_122627.jpg IMG_20180706_122635.jpg IMG_20180706_122627.jpg
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    We do the same. I like Suspend SC as a pesticide. It works well and is relatively easy to handle compared to some other products.
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    Does anyone guarantee this process? I can't get my brain around applying things on rugs/carpets that really do not work or can be guaranteed .
    Do you need a pesticide license?
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    Where do you get the suspend? I use pyrethrins in a fine oil.
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    You don't need a pesticide license as long you are not spraying in their home. Yes I guaranty the moth larva will be killed. I spray both sides of the rug, then bag it for 3 days. When I roll it out, the moth larva are dead and shrivelled up. I vacuum and sometimes hand pick them and their casings off. The Repel is something I have just recently begun using. Apparantly, it makes the wool unappetizing for the larva and they starve or move on.
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    I see Suspend is a synthetic pyrethroid. We do not do PC nowadays but found the likes of Dursban Ec to be more effective that pyrethroids for fleas, carpet beetle, etc
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    Please note in Canada if you apply pesticides commercially and you are not a technician or trainee, you need a Pesticide Exterminator licence from the Ministry of Environment Climate Change (MOECC) which authorizes you to apply pesticides according to your licence.

    Similarly in the US

    I have been a PCO for 30 years. The fines in Oz are $12,000 per offence and your personal details together with the offence are permanently held in a database that can be accessed by the Public. This alone can put someone out of business.


    You might find in the circumstances you describe a PCO License is required.
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    The pesticide is applied in my shop, the carpet left sealed for 3 days, then thoroughly cleaned. The Repel product is not a pesticide as I am aware. It doesn't kill moths or larva, merely renders the carpet unappetizing. You are right, if applying pesticide in homes, you need a licence.
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    The legislation refers to if you apply pesticides commercially.

    Repel contains permethrin which is a Synthetic Pyrethroid which is an insecticide.

    The insects controlled on the Repel label does not include moths therefore the product is being used "off label" which is in violation of Federal Law.

    I strongly urge you to contact your Pest Licensing Authority for further information. Please don't mention what you are doing just what you intend to do and checking if it is ok.
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    I think you are looking at a different "repel". The Masterblends product is a magnesium florosilicate. I don't see any permethrins listed on the sds sheet.
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    Yes the Masterblends product contains magnesium florosilicate which is a moth proofing agent and not an insecticide.

    Repel is the brand name of another product that contains insecticide.

    Your reference to insecticide in your original post make me concerned there might be some issues that could have unexpected consequences for your Business.

    The masterblend product you use is perfect imo.
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    Each state in the US has its own regulations on pesticide use and licensing - any time you make a commercial kill claim against an insect or other pest, or even apply a chemical that is labeled for use as a pesticide but in a non-pesticidal application (like Microban X-590, which is an antimicrobial but also has pyrethrins in it), you must abide by both Federal regulations on useage, and by your state's laws on kill claims.

    I get a lot of guys whose customers have asked them to get rid of bedbugs, fleas, dust mites, etc, and I always refer them back to these laws. The way I put it is, if your customer needs an exterminator, have them call one. I wouldn't ask my dentist to do my brain surgery, just because his hourly rate is lower, so your customers ought not expect you to perform the job of another company either.

    MasterBlend's Repel doesn't count as a pesticide because it makes no kill claims - it just shuts the front door of the restaurant so the little boogers can't eat.

    Crazy but true - if a customer decides to go get an Adams flea bomb at PetSmart and set it off in the house, that's private use and is essentially unregulated. But if you as a cleaner accept payment for setting off that exact same flea bomb they bought at PetSmart for them, you must be licensed.
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