Tai Ping Insets

[llong]

LIGHT COLORED Tai Ping hand tufted wool carpets inset into a high-traffic area in a hotel lobby. They really look nice from a decorator's point of view-however...... :roll: :roll: i would like to see them brighten up a bit more-and perhaps hold a little longer than they are. We are using a alot of spotting and Strive Compact unit to maintain them and lightly wanding them when needed. Any suggestions??????

 

[sweendogg]

first, vacuum, vacuum vacuum. And the hotel needs to know that it needs to stay on top of the vacuuming every day with a wool carpet/rug insert like this. The course wool fibers will grab and hold soil like nobody's business. Stay on the suction only side for daily vacuuming, but use a beater bar vac once a week, making sure the brissels are not to stiff to cause texture distortion.

It sounds like you are afraid of overwetting it. And with the euipment you have or atleast your profile describes, you may need to bring in an outside cleaner who has a truckmount. The rug needs to be flushed out and given a good deep cleaning and then a good woolsafe protector applied like Masterblends Ultimate plus UV protection. I suggest a truckmount because you need to be able to recover the water very effectivelty with tufted wool pieces as they tend to delaminate a little faster than other tufted pieces. I'd suggest with the traffic described a good deep cleaning every 6 months at the latest, and protector reapplied with your spotting and vacuuming program in place.

 

[Ron K]

I would use a Brush Roll Upright with Soft Bristles. Suction only does not work IMO. Heavy traffic, Light Color maybe every Three months cleaned if not more. You are open 24-7 so how many rooms are in your hotel?
Is the rug installed or is it loose? Underlayment? What kind of Vacuum do you have?

 

[rhyde]

Hilton has been putting these in many locations

 

[llong]

We have 6 insets total (8x12) plus a 30x60 bar in the lobby in the hotel.. So far-so good its been 9 months, but it is a battle. We are using Core and Neutrarinse products-i am very careful to stay within warrantee guidelines. Any suggestions on other chemicals? Yes, the rugs are installed (inset into a hardwood floor,another water issue in itself :roll: ) The hotel is great about keeping them vacuumed-they use one with a beater bar set high once a week-and just a little push job daily.

 

[llong]

Ya-were keeping up with the "Jones". Its nice-but from a CC point of view (actually a high paid janitor) i really prefer the stuff on the Casino floor.

 

[llong]

I want to thank everyone for thier input in advance-you guys are awesome!!!! And i really like this website!!!!! My father has been cleaning and installing for 35 years-and got me into this deal (we used to do the whole thing with truckmounts!!!!) He retired and the casino hired me as a supervisor-with-alot-to-learn!!!!! shiteatinggrin I told him about the website and he says he is glad now i have other brains to pick besides his-now he can go back to playing with his Studebakers and fishing without me bugging him!!!! i have weekends off (too busy to run a carpet Zamboni between bodies)- so i will look for more Monday ! Have a great week-end!!!!!

 

[Bob Foster]

Strive Compact

 

[sweendogg]

Ron K.. with tufted wool installed, even a soft brush brissel bar can pull tufts pretty easily if the vacuum is not set correctly. In this case it sounds like it may be, but ideally it should be vacuumed daily, and so as an insurance policy for hotel employees, they are better off suggesting suction only for every day dust dirt soil removal. And perhaps a good regular vacuuming once a week like they have been doing. My bet is with the hard wood floor surrounds the hotel already has the backback/suction only vacs.

 

[Ron K]

I have NEVER seen a rug, tufted or not, ruined by PROPER over Vacuuming.

 

[sweendogg]

You must not deal with tufted rugs all that much. Just like the bad latex, we get at least 10 rugs a year brand new that we send back to a company because of poor tuft bind. We even dropped an entire line of rigs because of this problem. It is the retailers job to make sure the rugs pass the final quality check. But with so many wholesale rug sellers online, a lot of the junk tufted gets put in. Heck we would love to only sell hand knots and woven rugs, but people there are too many customers that insist on the nicer tufted rugs based on price point. So you either sell them, or you lose your customers to the box stores. Then when the rugs wear out, they usually return to buy a better woven or hand knotted rug.

So it's not proper over vacuuming, it's defects in the product. Combined with over aggressive vacuuming. I,ve seen the older dyson among other vAcuums destroy a perfectly good rug in about six months.

 

[Ron K]

Dyson as far as I know does not make a Natural Bristle Brush Roll. Their Purple one with the red knobs is too stiff
IMO. If you were to get that rug in to clean would you just Suction only it before Cleaning???? Tai Ping as far as I know is not a "Low" quality rug.

 

[sweendogg]

... We would use soft brissled brush roll upright much like you. Unless we get one in for cleaning and find that it has a very loose tuft bind.. it happens, then we usually tyvek and badger or compress air dust it. But for a hotel to vacuum with everyday, we suggest suction only on these types of rugs followed by an upright with beater bar/brush roll once a week.



And I never said the problems happen with low quality rugs. The problems have happened on even the most expensive and "quality" tufted rugs.. ( i personally think quality and tufted is an oxymoron when it comes to wool rugs.) Again, every so often you get a junk rug through even on the high quality companies.. no matter if its a woven, tufted or hand knotted. The companies usually have no problem taking back the defect rugs much like a carpet mill will replace defective carpet.

 

[joeynbgky]

Oreck has the soft bristles, that would be perfect for this situation.

 

[sweendogg]

You don't like your new riccar?

 

[The Great Oz]

Tai Pings are pretty well made rugs. The biggest problem with any rug like this is that the nap is too deep for portable or surface cleaning. Soil that is out of reach of limited equipment will show past the fiber tips to the surface.

If you want to keep these looking their best I'd recommend having someone come in with a truckmount once a quarter and do a deeper cleaning than you can with a walk-behind or portable. As long as you don't encap more than four times, you can encap them between deep cleanings or use the portable equipment as much as you want.

 

[Ron K]

What I'm trying to get at Sweendog is most Vacuuming is not done correctly or enough. Suction only might make it worse. Like I said before, I've never seen a quality rug ruined from proper vacuuming with a Quality Vacuum. I'd venture to say that if Everyone vacuumed properly one half of us would be out of business.

 

[rhyde]

I agree with Bryan tai ping rugs are well made for tufted rugs

better vacuuming by housekeeping staff would help I think 2 x a day is good.

 

[sweendogg]

Yes i agree 100% of what you said in your last post Ron, the only problem is getting hotel staff to vacuum properly.