How old is your machine? The one i use has a vacuum to suck of the foam and extract the soils. I always use fans and the upholstery is dry before i get my next piece done and the last piece i do is dry or mostly dry before i leave depending on the fabric. Do you use VS chems?
A good garden hose is one of the best yet least practiced tools of the tradeinteresting that they chose a chair with fabric that can be cleaned with a GARDEN hose ...
..L.T.A.
A good garden hose is one of the best yet least practiced tools of the trade
The whole hysteria about wet cleaning fabric has been way over emphasized. Most fabrics (probably 95%) are best cleaned wet. And just like carpet cleaning, the more water goes through and flushes the fabric- the better and healthier will be the cleaning results.
The trick is not letting the filling material get wet. Which, with the right technique (not SS tools that does not get the fabric flushed well IMHO) can be easily accomplished.
As for the other 5%. Yes, by all means apply the other methods, tools and techniques of your fancy.
It must be just you because very few posts i make do i mention the VS system and i have never said or implied that anyone on this board is clueless. Where do you get this sh-t from anyway? FYI this board is not designated or exclusive to hwe. It is for carpet cleaners and for carpet cleaners to share their experiences and knowledge which is good for everyone involved.
I dont see it that way at all.I just stated what i believe to be the truth as i see it based on my knowledge and experiences. The funny thing is that you are willing to blindly discredit me and defend your system without regards to what may or may not be the best thing you can do to become a high end upholstery cleaner.
| Dry foam, low moisture, encapsulation all have their place as viable methods for cleaning. However, when these methods are used should be what we as professionals determine. Having but one method in your tool box greatly limits the possibilty of you having the right "tool" for the job. |
#1 Dont know about any published data. Dont care not my concern.yea, i couldn't find any published data either on water evaporation causing oxidizing .
i could find some on the electrolyzed water
if they have published data , I;d like to see it.
I can't accept "cause they said so" any more than I'd accept "some supplier's" word for it .
Believe it or not, Mardie, a WHOLE LOT of suppliers across the country ...don't know chit
i'd really like to see the source his info came from
Mardie, if I understand from reading your posts, you don't own a portable and have only rented a grocery store porty to clean your home carpets before you got into shampoo the biz
If you could share how many "personal" visual comparisons you've done to observe such "dulling effect" , I;d appreciate it .
I'm also curious if side by side, same upl piece was used when you observed such "dulling effect" , what chems were used and if the HWE side had the benefit of mechanical agitation like your VS upl tool?
I much prefer rotary tool IMMERSION cleaning ....it's called a "washing machine "
But that's not practical for wall to wall goods
BTW, you mentioned RUGS... there are several top pro rug cleaners here .
I don't know any that are concerned about the "dulling effect" of evaporating water .
and would you believe some of the top rug guys do use a GARDEN hose on rugs that go in the immersion bay??
we can ask to be sure, but I'll bet a nickel they don't "shampoo only" the rugs because of this "dulling effect" someone has convinced you of
..L.T.A.
Mardie, how can something that's "dulled" due to oxidation be restored with shampoo?
you're simply cleaning upl that needs cleaned or was cleaned by a poor cleaner ...it has nothing to do with the method pad'ner ...you're talking out of your hat
Since we know it ain't the VS Machine.
And it certainly ain't "knucklehead's" cleaning talent or powers of observation.
The only other option may be: Optical Brighteners.
and you might be surprised that many of us hear all the time, "wow, it's so much better than the what the last guy did"
It's called being an above average cleaner, you knucklehead ...it has nothing to do with the method .
when...IF you ever figure that out, you'll eventually have a TM and your shampoo box will be used only for special purpose ..if at all
Larry, please. Your optimism knows no bounds. What are the chances ?
..l.T.A.
I can see how the porty would be faster and easier but would disagree if you said better. The liquidator system on the LMX needs a lot of tricks to keep it working properly SUCKS one of the main reasons that foam spits is that the vacuum shoe is drawing to much air Hence the brush is dialed down to low for the carpet you are cleaning which raises the vacuum shoe of the carpet which lets to much air in. VS has changed the sprocket to a belt which makes it much quieter and smoother running. I also hope to get a trinity O/P sometime.The only thing i dont like about the O/P is its inability to extract physical debri.The second step of proper vacuuming on large commercial would be very time consuming. As far as cleaning problem carpet i dual process with the Cimex and LMX. This combonation will cut through anything like a hot knife going through warm butter and it is fast.
I do the hand test all the time to make sure i got all the prespray out properly. The only thing i feel is a silky smooth carpet or upholstery. That silky smooth feel always puts a big smile on my face. Do you think that a company like VS would use a product that would leave a sticky residue behind? So tell me do you know what year it is ? A garden hose in a wash pit is much different than taking your clients furniture out back to hose it of . Would you agree?
Sounds to me you ran out of what little Wit you had. LOLI guess it leaves me with just one oddball, knowitall knucklehead
