You agree with these stats regarding our wonderful industry

[renegade_cowboy]

Americans spend an average of 3 billion dollars a year on carpet cleaning alone, with the average charge is .28 sq ft.

I read this on consumer reports, I dont know the source so just wondering what you heard.

 

[Royal Man]

Re: You agree with these stats regarding our wonderful indus

The price seems a bit low.

If you average in the machine rentals and home machines it could be right.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Re: You agree with these stats regarding our wonderful indus

Statistics mean nothing without disclosure of the means used to get them.


My gut feeling is that the price is too HIGH, we only wish 28 cents were the "average" (total $ charge for all carpet cleaning / sq ft. area cleaned).

The word AVERAGE get thrown around a lot, often incorrectly.

http://blogs.consumerreports.org/home/c ... _supplies/

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[daniel@procarpet]

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I was thinking the same thing Lee.

56 dollars per 200 sq ft room does not seem like the standard with all the three and a hall deals going around.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Re: You agree with these stats regarding our wonderful indus

Residential we charge .35, but commercial is all over the place, depending on sq/ft cleaned.

 

[Askal]

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Hey! I don't think I am getting my share of that pie? Whats up with that?
Al

 

[Ron Werner]

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28 cents does seem low considering how many are snookered into paying a lot more than they should. How many people actually pay 5.95/room?

I wonder about the 3 Billion too. That seems a little high. How many companies would there need to be and what would they're gross need to be?

 

[Louis]

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Maybe they are counting all the reslove and spot shot crap sold too. That could be a big chunck of change.

 

[Askal]

Re: You agree with these stats regarding our wonderful indus

300 million people, 100 million households. Once every 5 years on average for the 20% who choose pro cleaners is 4 million jobs a year. average job is about 130.00. Doesn't add up.
Al
ps Farm boy math

 

[rick imby]

Re: You agree with these stats regarding our wonderful indus

I like your farm boy math...

Rick

 

[Askal]

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rick: I have ridden through Montana many times and lived in Great Falls and Lewistown when I was a kid. An amazing and beautiful state, but I don't miss the snow.
Al

 

[Art Kelley]

Re: You agree with these stats regarding our wonderful indus

I hate it when it's snowing out and five degrees and no one calls and I go into debt and I get fat.

 

[Gnu]

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I hate it when it's snowing out and five degrees and no one calls and I go into debt and I get fat.

In Orygun they cancell if it gets cloudy. and When it rains it goes from bills paid. to broke dick and starving so getting fat isnt an option lol then the bank account slowly dwindles during the 10 months of winter

Hey Al, have you ever notice the differance between Medford carpet cleaning and Grants Pass carpet cleanings?
Medford ones are basically clean and liveable, Where-as Gp ones ugh.. a pile of moldy sweaters are actually a stack of dead puppies putrified to the subflooring. Or the indoor kennels?? lol

 

[Askal]

Re: You agree with these stats regarding our wonderful indus

Yeah we are definitely on the "other" side of the tracks here.

 

[carpetcleaner]

Re: You agree with these stats regarding our wonderful indus

My "average" customer has their carpet cleaned at least once a year.

 

[LisaWagnerCRS]

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With as many who charge by the room because they do not realize that it's smarter to charge by square foot - I could see that average.

I bet the median is higher though... most Piranha Members start their pricing as their budget package in the 30s and up to 70+ cents.

I'd like to see how they culled the data on this - because I know the last time I saw Stanley Steemer's stats on their several hundred million a year in revenue - it broke down to an average invoice of $130 - which is super low. And the franchises collectively, all of them lumped together, are less than 20% of the professional cleaning taking place.

I don't know how they would gauge total revenue exactly.... can you put the link to the specific report up?

Lisa

 

[renegade_cowboy]

Re: You agree with these stats regarding our wonderful indus

With as many who charge by the room because they do not realize that it's smarter to charge by square foot - I could see that average.

I bet the median is higher though... most Piranha Members start their pricing as their budget package in the 30s and up to 70+ cents.

I'd like to see how they culled the data on this - because I know the last time I saw Stanley Steemer's stats on their several hundred million a year in revenue - it broke down to an average invoice of $130 - which is super low. And the franchises collectively, all of them lumped together, are less than 20% of the professional cleaning taking place.

I don't know how they would gauge total revenue exactly.... can you put the link to the specific report up?

Lisa

SS liked to brag to the employees haw well steemer was doing and 7 years ago they were around $450 million dollars if I remmeber correct. Then you add in Chem Who, Coit, and so on take it up to around 40% maybe?

 

[harryhides]

Re: You agree with these stats regarding our wonderful indus

300 million people, 100 million households. Once every 5 years on average for the 20% who choose pro cleaners is 4 million jobs a year. average job is about 130.00. Doesn't add up.
Al
ps Farm boy math

I was thinking the same way Al.

100 million households includes apartments and condos.
Assuming a job average of $100 per you'd get a total of $10 billion.
Assume an average of $150 per you'd get a total of $15 billion.
Assume an average of $200 per you'd get a total of $20 billion.

Assume an average of 1 cleaning per 3 years and you'd get a total revenue range of $3-7 Billion.
Assume an average of 1 cleaning per 5 years and you'd get a total revenue range of $2-4 Billion.

Another farm kid.

 

[Askal]

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Yes but then you would have to divide those last two numbers by 5 to factor in the 80% who never use a pro cleaner.
Al

 

[LisaWagnerCRS]

Re: You agree with these stats regarding our wonderful indus

With as many who charge by the room because they do not realize that it's smarter to charge by square foot - I could see that average.

I bet the median is higher though... most Piranha Members start their pricing as their budget package in the 30s and up to 70+ cents.

I'd like to see how they culled the data on this - because I know the last time I saw Stanley Steemer's stats on their several hundred million a year in revenue - it broke down to an average invoice of $130 - which is super low. And the franchises collectively, all of them lumped together, are less than 20% of the professional cleaning taking place.

I don't know how they would gauge total revenue exactly.... can you put the link to the specific report up?

Lisa

SS liked to brag to the employees haw well steemer was doing and 7 years ago they were around $450 million dollars if I remmeber correct. Then you add in Chem Who, Coit, and so on take it up to around 40% maybe?

Nope - last year I pulled the numbers from all of the public company financial filings with the SEC when I was trying to figure out how much of the restoration work was being handled by franchises, and the cleaning data came to under 20% of the total cleaning being reported. Though with restoration specifically I was working on the insurance data of claims and trying to determine how much of that was being handled by franchises.

I was trying to show our members, and cleaners in general, that there is a lot of restoration claims (small/medium) that they could easily tap into IF they wanted to get into that field. So I was pulling the data.

Pull open your phone book, and see how many independents you have just in your town (we have 1,000) - and franchises are not doing the bulk of any town's cleaning... and, with the number of franchisees who are on their own coming to Piranha for help in getting jobs - if they had a lock on that work from their national, they would not be coming to us.

People continually overestimate the impact of franchises - the franchisors do in order to sell more locations... and the independents do in order to have an "excuse" why it's so hard for them.

At least that's what I see...
Lisa