Mikey P
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24 out of the 90 or so attendies voted on 9 categories
1. Appearance
2. Features
3. Handling/Operation
4. Cleaning Performance
5. Drying Performance
6. Perceived Value
7. Quality of Construction
8. Versatility
9. Value
We had all four units set up and running on loose carpet of various styles, soil level and color.
Attendees were asked to listen to a short 2 to 3 minute description given by a representative from the manufacturer and try the units and use any prior experience to judge the 4 units on a scale of 1 to 9. They were given a day and a half to fill out the forms.
The tickets were used to raffle off a new Devastator filter
THERE WAS NOTHING SCIENTIFIC ABOUT THE EVALUATION WHAT SO EVER.
Points were totaled for an over score as follows:
HOSS 700- 1532
Rotovac 360XL-1424
RX20-1360
Mytee Trex-1352
As far as winner per category I don’t have the three hours right now to do the math, but quite frankly, I don’t think it really matters.
If enough people really want to know and someone wants to volunteer I’ll mail them the ballots.
ALL four machines will out clean and wand/Shampoo brush combo. FACT.
For my company I only need a Rotary Extractor on 20 to 25% of the jobs we see to deal with the very worse of residential pile. I don’t need or demand a unit to be able to work on Commercial Glue Down, but still feel all the units should be able to handle un-leveled floors to some degree.
My thoughts on each unit.. (purely scientific)
RX20.
Best built and handling unit of the four. Smooth, Plenty of power. Proven performer with nine lives. No unwanted flex when healed. Nothing feels cheap. Too expensive due to overly generous dealer mark up. Air flow is a big issue, the vacuum system had too many sharp corners and restrictions for the air/water to flow smoothly which leads to overly wet carpet compared to the other three units. I would need to see a skirt that goes all the way to the carpet to control heat loss and over spray to ever consider using the unit around furniture or wood baseboards. . Sadly these issues will not be addressed in the upcoming ‘refreshing” of the unit according to rumors but rather just losing some weight and price. I personally feel the weight is fine (2 pounds more than the HOSS) and only additional fault is the location of the safety switch, which is too far from my long fingers. $4000
HOSS 700
All of my complaints with the early production unit have been addressed! Thank you for listening!! Wheels roll smooth and quite now. No more axle vibration. Handle has been narrowed by 3 inches. Flow has been increased and can be made adjustable if desired with a needle valve sold separately . The clear vacuum elbow has been replaced with a more durable poly carbonate and a clear hose is now standard. Knuckle guard is now gone and a safety switch is not built in the the power trigger. It took a little getting used to but is in a convenient location The vacuum hook up port was turned so the hose falls more naturally behind the user. Handling was second best of the four. Some slight flexibility in the H frame handle is noticed but of no concern. Tall boy conversion kit is available. Flexible vacuum ports are a plus and have held up well on my unit. Virtually no over spray. $3000
Rotovac 360XL
While this unit at the show is still very much in beta mode RV feels their head design and motor choice was good enough to show off before all facets of the design are finalized.
Vacuum and cleaning action should be no different than the four port staggered jet “I” model. This unit should clean faster and deal with thicker piles much better. The gear box appears to be the same as on the HOSS so I feel confident that it will plow through most any thick carpet that would cause the “I” to stutter. I’d still like to see both size units have the jets further from the carpet which could be accomplished with taller vacuum shoes long with a longer skirt.to contain the additional over spray this backing the jets off would create. I believe more space between the jets and carpet would make this unit clean as well as the RX20 does. The” H” handle needs beefing up to handle the extra weight and torque of the 15 inch head (20 more pounds +/-), along with its telescopic height adjustment it flexes far too much when healed. Speed control was missing but IMO not needed. No safety switch and no over spray..$2500
Mytee Trex.
I have to be honest and say this unit was a big disappointment for me. I had really hoped that the two cleaners John “hired” to perform R and D for him would have noticed what was oh so apparent to me and many others at M9F in pre production units and had it all corrected before the 150 units were sold.(so far). The motor seriously struggles on anything but the thinnest of piles. When used (both .5 and 1 horse versions that were there) on 40 to 50 ounce pile (normal residential type carpet) the head would struggle seriously. With just a bit of healing it would stop dead in its tracks. One test area in the parking lot had one piece of carpet on top of another (simulating pad) and the machine would not start up unless you pulled up on the handle to reduce the drag created by the six aggressively V shaped vacuum shoes. While I’m certain the shape of the shoes lead to deep cleaning and great water extraction, I find them to be too aggressive and would not want to use them on fine piles, velvet's or wool carpet. When changing rotation speed the motor would often stop or stutter. I think the power needs to be stopped before adjusting to not damage the motor long term. The control knob is still in the horrible location it was when I first saw the Trex last August. In my truck it would not last a day. Flex was another serious issue both in the plastic and carbon fiber handle and in the base plate. No external ribbing or” I” beams were used on top like on the HOSS and Rotovacs to create stability/rigidity in the base plate. The unit did not feel solid and when healed it felt like it was going to crack at the carbon tube-base plate joint. The handle/head WAS cracked on each side (inch and a half long and growing) where the rubber bike grip type handles fit into the head. Way too much flex was felt throughout the unit leading me to believe this current version will lead a very short life in the hands of your normal carpet cleaning tech and anything less than the most anal of owner operators. Over spray was very noticeable. Safety switch was awkward and hard to use. A wheel hub was cracked and the head to carbon fiber tube plastic joint/lug was separating at the seam. I’m afraid it’s the Chinese RX20 all over again. $2500
And before that moron "Deron" on tmf says SS paid me to leave this review, let me remind you that I have left negative reviews for certain Sapphire chemicals as well as the Stryker wand. The guy is as phony as they come and I have to wonder if he is really not just another one of Rob’s made up personalities.
And now you have the rest of the story…
Good day.
1. Appearance
2. Features
3. Handling/Operation
4. Cleaning Performance
5. Drying Performance
6. Perceived Value
7. Quality of Construction
8. Versatility
9. Value
We had all four units set up and running on loose carpet of various styles, soil level and color.
Attendees were asked to listen to a short 2 to 3 minute description given by a representative from the manufacturer and try the units and use any prior experience to judge the 4 units on a scale of 1 to 9. They were given a day and a half to fill out the forms.
The tickets were used to raffle off a new Devastator filter
THERE WAS NOTHING SCIENTIFIC ABOUT THE EVALUATION WHAT SO EVER.
Points were totaled for an over score as follows:
HOSS 700- 1532
Rotovac 360XL-1424
RX20-1360
Mytee Trex-1352
As far as winner per category I don’t have the three hours right now to do the math, but quite frankly, I don’t think it really matters.
If enough people really want to know and someone wants to volunteer I’ll mail them the ballots.
ALL four machines will out clean and wand/Shampoo brush combo. FACT.
For my company I only need a Rotary Extractor on 20 to 25% of the jobs we see to deal with the very worse of residential pile. I don’t need or demand a unit to be able to work on Commercial Glue Down, but still feel all the units should be able to handle un-leveled floors to some degree.
My thoughts on each unit.. (purely scientific)
RX20.
Best built and handling unit of the four. Smooth, Plenty of power. Proven performer with nine lives. No unwanted flex when healed. Nothing feels cheap. Too expensive due to overly generous dealer mark up. Air flow is a big issue, the vacuum system had too many sharp corners and restrictions for the air/water to flow smoothly which leads to overly wet carpet compared to the other three units. I would need to see a skirt that goes all the way to the carpet to control heat loss and over spray to ever consider using the unit around furniture or wood baseboards. . Sadly these issues will not be addressed in the upcoming ‘refreshing” of the unit according to rumors but rather just losing some weight and price. I personally feel the weight is fine (2 pounds more than the HOSS) and only additional fault is the location of the safety switch, which is too far from my long fingers. $4000
HOSS 700
All of my complaints with the early production unit have been addressed! Thank you for listening!! Wheels roll smooth and quite now. No more axle vibration. Handle has been narrowed by 3 inches. Flow has been increased and can be made adjustable if desired with a needle valve sold separately . The clear vacuum elbow has been replaced with a more durable poly carbonate and a clear hose is now standard. Knuckle guard is now gone and a safety switch is not built in the the power trigger. It took a little getting used to but is in a convenient location The vacuum hook up port was turned so the hose falls more naturally behind the user. Handling was second best of the four. Some slight flexibility in the H frame handle is noticed but of no concern. Tall boy conversion kit is available. Flexible vacuum ports are a plus and have held up well on my unit. Virtually no over spray. $3000
Rotovac 360XL
While this unit at the show is still very much in beta mode RV feels their head design and motor choice was good enough to show off before all facets of the design are finalized.
Vacuum and cleaning action should be no different than the four port staggered jet “I” model. This unit should clean faster and deal with thicker piles much better. The gear box appears to be the same as on the HOSS so I feel confident that it will plow through most any thick carpet that would cause the “I” to stutter. I’d still like to see both size units have the jets further from the carpet which could be accomplished with taller vacuum shoes long with a longer skirt.to contain the additional over spray this backing the jets off would create. I believe more space between the jets and carpet would make this unit clean as well as the RX20 does. The” H” handle needs beefing up to handle the extra weight and torque of the 15 inch head (20 more pounds +/-), along with its telescopic height adjustment it flexes far too much when healed. Speed control was missing but IMO not needed. No safety switch and no over spray..$2500
Mytee Trex.
I have to be honest and say this unit was a big disappointment for me. I had really hoped that the two cleaners John “hired” to perform R and D for him would have noticed what was oh so apparent to me and many others at M9F in pre production units and had it all corrected before the 150 units were sold.(so far). The motor seriously struggles on anything but the thinnest of piles. When used (both .5 and 1 horse versions that were there) on 40 to 50 ounce pile (normal residential type carpet) the head would struggle seriously. With just a bit of healing it would stop dead in its tracks. One test area in the parking lot had one piece of carpet on top of another (simulating pad) and the machine would not start up unless you pulled up on the handle to reduce the drag created by the six aggressively V shaped vacuum shoes. While I’m certain the shape of the shoes lead to deep cleaning and great water extraction, I find them to be too aggressive and would not want to use them on fine piles, velvet's or wool carpet. When changing rotation speed the motor would often stop or stutter. I think the power needs to be stopped before adjusting to not damage the motor long term. The control knob is still in the horrible location it was when I first saw the Trex last August. In my truck it would not last a day. Flex was another serious issue both in the plastic and carbon fiber handle and in the base plate. No external ribbing or” I” beams were used on top like on the HOSS and Rotovacs to create stability/rigidity in the base plate. The unit did not feel solid and when healed it felt like it was going to crack at the carbon tube-base plate joint. The handle/head WAS cracked on each side (inch and a half long and growing) where the rubber bike grip type handles fit into the head. Way too much flex was felt throughout the unit leading me to believe this current version will lead a very short life in the hands of your normal carpet cleaning tech and anything less than the most anal of owner operators. Over spray was very noticeable. Safety switch was awkward and hard to use. A wheel hub was cracked and the head to carbon fiber tube plastic joint/lug was separating at the seam. I’m afraid it’s the Chinese RX20 all over again. $2500
And before that moron "Deron" on tmf says SS paid me to leave this review, let me remind you that I have left negative reviews for certain Sapphire chemicals as well as the Stryker wand. The guy is as phony as they come and I have to wonder if he is really not just another one of Rob’s made up personalities.
And now you have the rest of the story…
Good day.
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