Mikey P
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This OG head makes sense, the 12 does not.
RV360 on stairs..
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Loren Egland
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The 12 inch is twice as fast. Covers the whole step in one pass. Leaves time to use a stair tool for edges and risers.
All us RV stair users are coming out of the closet for you, Mike. We're onto something revolutionary.
Nate The Great
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Call me @Desk Jockey , but IMHO it's too much work to take the shroud off to switch to use the smaller head when the normal head does it faster and same outcome..... Same reason I don't like threesomes...... Double the effort for the same outcome.......
Agreed!
Better outcome. And FWIW, the edges come out looking outstanding with the standard head.
I question the comparison. Though at 59+ it really doesn't matter any longer.Same reason I don't like threesomes...... Double the effort for the same outcome.......
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shadygrady
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I've tried wi both, starting with the original Swinger and 360i. My critical eye for the finished results, requires the usage of the StairPro. Agree with the hassle of removing the shroud on larger machine. With the smaller unit, I can heel over the bullnosing far better by riding it on the centre glider. Even on berber.
Art Kelley
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The 12" head sprays over the edge of the 11" stair step, but you are going down anyways so you vac up that overspray. A badly trashed step will get two or three slow clean passes then two or three dry passes. This really leaves the stairs practically dry. At the bottom of the staircase you have a towel spread out to catch the overspray from the last two steps. It can take up to ten minutes of running the RV to clean a trashed stairway. The nice thing about the 360i over the Trex Jr. (which would also work well) is that you collapse the handle to make a short tool. You flatten the handle at the top of the stairs and as you approach the final 3-4 steps you gradually raise the handle and can even work in the 45 degree position if necessary if you are in a tight area with the wall at your back. Watch for overspray off the side if the staircase has an open right side. Things under the right side of an open staircase should be tarped or moved out of the way..
Mikey P
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I hope you guys are getting $150 for a staircase
NobleCarpetCleaners
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Been there/done that. Holy crap you can't detail the nose, the corners or the riser. It's back up with a shorty wand after farting around with the RV. I don't like making a career out of each and every job.
Russ T.
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The small stair head for the 360i is VERY aggressive. I've used mine about twice. It's very hard and even a little sharp on the edges of the metal "glides".
I think it's overkill to use that on all but the most trashed set of steps.
I'm going to use the standard 12" head some more to see if I can learn to like it. I'm pretty old school in that I normally use a long handled stair tool to clean treads and risers with only a Grandi Groomer for agitation, when necessary.
I think it's overkill to use that on all but the most trashed set of steps.
I'm going to use the standard 12" head some more to see if I can learn to like it. I'm pretty old school in that I normally use a long handled stair tool to clean treads and risers with only a Grandi Groomer for agitation, when necessary.
Prespray the stairs......use a scrub brush for the nose and use your stair tool.
That rotovac looks too cumbersome to use.
That rotovac looks too cumbersome to use.
Art Kelley
Supportive Member
Prerspray,red pad (optional),swoop head, wand, towel dry bull nose.
I've got one of those harbor freight makita style car buffers with a 8 inch velcro head. I could either slap on a hand bonnet or cut a red or white pad to fit and use that.Then use my swivel stair tool. Be better than breaking your back using the roto and using a regular wand.
Art Kelley
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It's quite effortless to use the RV as opposed to scrubbing with a brush and trying to achieve the level of clean with a wand on a very heavily soiled stairway. All you are doing is balancing a floor machine which anyone can do with a little practice. If it's really bad it takes about 10 minutes to rotary clean a flight of stairs. You are scrubbing and steaming all in one step.
Mikey P
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10 minutes?
come on.
you still need to wand or hand tool all the edges and risers, right?
come on.
you still need to wand or hand tool all the edges and risers, right?
Matt Middleton
Member
We use the 360I quad head for the stairs, once done we use a swivel stair tool to edge and detail. Not done in 10 minutes but the stairs look great when we are done
Ps Use a bar of fels for the nose after prespray.
Ps Use a bar of fels for the nose after prespray.
Mikey P
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the nose would be a bit tough to rinse out, wouldn't it?
Art Kelley
Supportive Member
10 minutes?
come on.
you still need to wand or hand tool all the edges and risers, right?
I've timed it many times, that's going slow with the RV. Then yes, a quick dry vac with the wand going down, and a quick steam up the riser. Effortwise, on a trashed stairway, it's easier than hand scrubbing and slowly
wanding to still not get the results of rotary cleanin. Same as traffic lanes in a room; if you tried to hand scrub and wand you would have no where then results of a RE. You know that. And stairs are often the worst traffic lanes in a house.
Why? It takes five to eight minutes to do set of steps.
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hydracat
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Am I the only one that uses an old fashioned internal jet upholstery tool to do stairs? I haven't found anything faster or that does as good a job.
Matt Middleton
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Fels rinsed without a problem with a swivel stair tool.
Loren Egland
Member
Ditto
Loren Egland
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I noticed on the video that he used the Rotovac stair tool to clean the nose by over spraying a little with his 6 inch tool. Depending on the stair size you will sometimes get that slight overspray with the 12 inch 360i quad, but you will do a nice job on the nose as a result.
I used to use the twin head Rotovac on stairs. I could still do so. It would seem to have all the advantage of the single head Rotovac stair tool but be twice as fast.
However, I find the 360i quad to be even easier and I don't have to bring in another tool to get results.
Too bad we can't get Deron from the other bulletin board to tell us rotary stair tool users that we are nuts.
I used to use the twin head Rotovac on stairs. I could still do so. It would seem to have all the advantage of the single head Rotovac stair tool but be twice as fast.
However, I find the 360i quad to be even easier and I don't have to bring in another tool to get results.
Too bad we can't get Deron from the other bulletin board to tell us rotary stair tool users that we are nuts.
Mike Draper
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Back when I first started I used to switch the large head over to that small one and clean all stairs that way. I had a small upholstery tool for risers. It cleaned the hell out of stairs, but was overkill for 80% of them.
Mikey P
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30 years into this and TODAY was the first time I used a PFM internal uph tool
Very nice.
Dont know what took me so long.
Papa John
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An RE on Stairs!!
Oh Just Shoot Me!!
This takes Saigerizing to a level of Insanity!-haha
Actually Much Props to the guys who take the time to clean stairs that thoroughly-- But I'd want $7 per stairs then. hum there are a few times I would have liked to use an RE on stairs-- but that's rare.
Oh Just Shoot Me!!
This takes Saigerizing to a level of Insanity!-haha
Actually Much Props to the guys who take the time to clean stairs that thoroughly-- But I'd want $7 per stairs then. hum there are a few times I would have liked to use an RE on stairs-- but that's rare.
shadygrady
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Alot of the time I just include the stairs in the per square foot charges. Other times if they are really bad, I might add a line item to the bill. $25-35.00. Most stair risers don,t need cleaning. I concentrate on the impacted areas that rarely get vacuumed.
SS handpiece to trim where needed.
SS handpiece to trim where needed.
