Mikey P
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plywood to be exact, what is your dilution ration to water?
Bleaching pee pee damage in subfloors
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1 part Kilz, Zero parts water
Mikey P
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Before you paint it, the wood should be sanitized with bleach..
ronbeatty
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Cut out the damaged flooring, it will never dry!!!
Mikey P
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always the extremest..
ronbeatty
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There is only one way to do things right, MINE
How can you clean plywood after it's already absorbed the urine? BS!!! Just Kilz it, slap a pad on top and strap that carpet right over it. Nobody will smell a thing. If you want to earn some extra points, give your customer a wink with your right eye. You'll be a qualified creep with a good smelling job
Bob Pruitt
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I might hit it with bleach...wait a few minutes...quick rinse with wand or tile spinner lower pressure...bondo smear across the urine area of plywood...wait a few 5 or so minutes for bond0 to dry. Zinnser Sealer http://www.thepaintstore.com/Zinsser_CLEAR_B_I_N_Sealer_p/24920.htm Available at Home Depot.
Mikey P
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We've always mopped a bleach water mix on to the effected areas (wood or concrete) fan dried, then painted/varnished, then reinstalled the flooring of choice.
anything less would be uncivilized
anything less would be uncivilized
Nate The Great
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Desk Jockey
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I'd tell them to move. Go start anew, recontaminate another property.
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Larry Cobb
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Mikey is right.
Hitting it with bleach or peroxide will kill any micro-organisms
and prevent future odors.
5% hypochlorite or 7.5% peroxide.
Hitting it with bleach or peroxide will kill any micro-organisms
and prevent future odors.
5% hypochlorite or 7.5% peroxide.
Mikey P
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See!
Larry would you say 8 ounces in a gallon of water would do the trick?
Larry would you say 8 ounces in a gallon of water would do the trick?
Nate The Great
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Only if it's well-formulated......
Desk Jockey
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So bleach isn't neutralized by organic material?
steve_64
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Wouldnt the bleach need days to soak as deep as the pee has?
The humidity around here would kick up the odors eventually I would think.
The humidity around here would kick up the odors eventually I would think.
Old Coastie
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Mark Saiger
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If you are going to seal the floor, only use Zinsser BIN primer sealer and do not use Kilz.
Difference between the two products Kilz has a micron size of. 015 and Zinsser BIN primer has a micron size of. 005. Much tighter and will keep sealed in on hot humid days.
Also make sure the can says BIN on it because Zinsser makes a lot of different paints
Difference between the two products Kilz has a micron size of. 015 and Zinsser BIN primer has a micron size of. 005. Much tighter and will keep sealed in on hot humid days.
Also make sure the can says BIN on it because Zinsser makes a lot of different paints
Cleanworks
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Rather than bleach, how about something like Pet Zone or similar? It's a combination of enzymes and peroxide. I have been having great succes with this on urine saturated carpet and pad. I mix it up and put it into a watering can and shower the carpet with it, let it sit for 1/2 hour or so and rinse. On plywood, you might let it sit longer, maybe put some plastic over the area, then let it dry. Seal with kilz and you are done.
Mikey P
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Go clean a moldy shower stall half and half with Peroxide and Bleach and tell me which side responds better.
No it is not. I have done tests with soil contaminated with sewage and came up with 0 on the test using fresh 8% bleach. Phenolic and quat made no difference from the control sample. Just don't sell it as a disinfectant. Not approved. I sell as a deodorizer. On the other hand replacing a subfloor is pretty easy if it is not contaminated under the sill plate.
Desk Jockey
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Thanks Al! Great info to know, very helpful.stuff!!!
Actually was just being a dik and fishing for Cobb.
ronbeatty
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Finally someone to agree with
. I have replaced subfloor on several homes, it is the way I would fix it if it were my home.
Papa John
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Larry Cobb
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I would use more (16 oz.) in a gallon.
Of course the chlorine smell would be strong.
That's why higher % peroxide is easier to apply.
Desk Jockey
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I'm with ya'll, you have the carpet & pad up, plywood is $8.00-$10.00 a sheet? I'd replace it.
No worries about having to soak it with solution, sealing it and hoping you got the odor.
No worries about having to soak it with solution, sealing it and hoping you got the odor.
Both chlorine bleach and Hydrogen Peroxide are unstable chemicals. They lose an oxygen atom to become stable. The oxygen atom attaches to the stinky organic compound and makes it stable and non stinky. Chlorine bleach leaves a chlorine smell. Hydrogen peroxide leaves a water molecule.
Both Chlorine bleach and Hydrogen Peroxide are stupid cheap. I have no idea why anyone would use chlorine bleach on sub floor instead of hydrogen peroxide...
Larry the Chemist Cobb, help me out---my chemistry is pretty marginal--- Does Chlorine only smell when it is still active (unstable)? Or can we still smell it after it has lost it's extra oxygen?
Both Chlorine bleach and Hydrogen Peroxide are stupid cheap. I have no idea why anyone would use chlorine bleach on sub floor instead of hydrogen peroxide...
Larry the Chemist Cobb, help me out---my chemistry is pretty marginal--- Does Chlorine only smell when it is still active (unstable)? Or can we still smell it after it has lost it's extra oxygen?
