Waste water managment

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If only there was a way to clean carpets with Very Small Amounts Of Water!

VSAOW cleaning might be the path to ecoHeaven.
 

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Any suggestions on best practices? Such as all truck mounts should come with pre filters and pump out installed from factory. Effects on ground water from pumping out on lawns etc. The only reason governments target truck mounts is because we have recovery tanks. How are we (pollution wise) compared to the guy who washes his car on the street, with all the soap running down the storm drains. How about the powerwashing industry, who washes large amounts of oils and other debris directly into storm drains? Has their been any direct studies on the effect the carpet cleaning industry as a whole has on the environment, with actual lab testing?
The pressure washers have to recover their water here. Talk about knocking some people out of business. The field was virtually cut in half.
 
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Jim Williams

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Any suggestions on best practices? Such as all truck mounts should come with pre filters and pump out installed from factory. Effects on ground water from pumping out on lawns etc. The only reason governments target truck mounts is because we have recovery tanks. How are we (pollution wise) compared to the guy who washes his car on the street, with all the soap running down the storm drains. How about the powerwashing industry, who washes large amounts of oils and other debris directly into storm drains? Has their been any direct studies on the effect the carpet cleaning industry as a whole has on the environment, with actual lab testing?

And don't forget every dishwasher and washing machine in America that is hooked to a septic tank. That soap just runs in one end and out the other.
 
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Just Google it.

It's been a problem here in Kansas for decades. Likely any Ag state.

Somebody called EPA???
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EPA's are a bunch a peckers.

Carbon monoxide from California and atlanta traffic, and irresponsible landfill waste are the two biggest problems in this country. Not a little bit of fertilizer from carpet cleaning. The EPA just wants more money some way from us broke as rug suckers
 

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So, Larry, in the Texas Richter Scale of Scent where does it stand now?

One sniff- complete loss of memory?

TM Customer came in today for his 3rd repeat gallon of Fruit Solv.

Said he really liked the product . . . & the fragrance.

His explanation seemed pretty lucid to me.
 
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A quote today from AJ Hodges on Facebook:

"Get this stuff from cobb. A little goes a LONG way. The smell is extremely powerful. Powerful enough it will be there days later. I add an oz or less to everything now."

It actually cleans better than pure d'Limonene, due to the blend of solvents.
 

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A quote from AJ Hodges on Facebook:

"Get this stuff from cobb. A little goes a LONG way. The smell is extremely powerful. Powerful enough it will be there days later. I add an oz or less to everything now."

I rest my case.
Any relation to Dave hodges? Cause he's taken a few pucks to the head too.
 

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Oh, yeah the EPA!! Yet, another government agency that knows better then us!!:eekk:
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Any suggestions on best practices? Such as all truck mounts should come with pre filters and pump out installed from factory. Effects on ground water from pumping out on lawns etc. The only reason governments target truck mounts is because we have recovery tanks. How are we (pollution wise) compared to the guy who washes his car on the street, with all the soap running down the storm drains. How about the powerwashing industry, who washes large amounts of oils and other debris directly into storm drains? Has their been any direct studies on the effect the carpet cleaning industry as a whole has on the environment, with actual lab testing?
I would suggest always using an APO hose. It's a bit more clandestine than just opening a 2" and letting the water flood. It also allows a more controlled release of the wastewater. Say that you always try and hook into a sewer/blackwater drain such as the toilet, laundry sink, or outside clean-out. Emphasize that you never allow the water to get near the street rain gutters. Then maybe mention how the soils acts as a natural filter and percolates the wastewater causing it to break down and become harmless. Also emphasize how you use only biodegradable chems.
 
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EPA's are a bunch a peckers.

Carbon monoxide from California and atlanta traffic, and irresponsible landfill waste are the two biggest problems in this country. Not a little bit of fertilizer from carpet cleaning. The EPA just wants more money some way from us broke as rug suckers
The air is clean up hear in Redding.
 

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I am being invited, along with other carpet cleaning professionals, to discuss waste water management issues with our municipal government. What are your biggest concerns about being able/not able to dump your waste water. What do you see in your own neighborhoods. What can the local government do to help. How bad is our waste water from a chemical viewpoint/lint viewpoint, etc.
Our biggest concern used to be that every community had a different set of regulations, with many regulations set by people that had no knowledge of anything to do with waste water. That changed when we worked with local government agencies that were trying to set a common standard. They learned a lot and were able to set those common standards for the entire Puget Sound region. Suggest your local agencies contact the Dump Smart program in Washington State, as the work has already been done.

Any suggestions on best practices? Such as all truck mounts should come with pre filters and pump out installed from factory. Effects on ground water from pumping out on lawns etc. The only reason governments target truck mounts is because we have recovery tanks. How are we (pollution wise) compared to the guy who washes his car on the street, with all the soap running down the storm drains. How about the powerwashing industry, who washes large amounts of oils and other debris directly into storm drains? Has their been any direct studies on the effect the carpet cleaning industry as a whole has on the environment, with actual lab testing?
We buy pump outs just because ground dumping can look bad to the ignorant. Unless you're using products with high solvent content, extreme pH, or pumped with oxidizers, there's nothing in your waste water that will hurt a lawn. (In a drought situation shrubbery may be more sensitive to the pH of your waste.) The Dump Smart regulations allow ground dumping no closer than 100 feet from surface water.

I've had actual lab testing done on our waste water, which became the basis for educating our local authorities and enabling the reasonable regional regulations. Dumping into storm drains or letting your runoff go into surface water is bad for a couple of reasons: Suspended fine particulate kills fish that aren't accustomed to high silt water; Our systems force a lot of air into the water, which will also kill marine life. Oxidizers will kill marine life. As mentioned before, a lot of alkalines spur plant growth, which can cause excess algae growth in waterways.

Proper ground dumping is fine if you pay attention to where, pumping to a sanitary drain is preferable. Never dump in the street.
 

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Our biggest concern used to be that every community had a different set of regulations, with many regulations set by people that had no knowledge of anything to do with waste water. That changed when we worked with local government agencies that were trying to set a common standard. They learned a lot and were able to set those common standards for the entire Puget Sound region. Suggest your local agencies contact the Dump Smart program in Washington State, as the work has already been done.


We buy pump outs just because ground dumping can look bad to the ignorant. Unless you're using products with high solvent content, extreme pH, or pumped with oxidizers, there's nothing in your waste water that will hurt a lawn. (In a drought situation shrubbery may be more sensitive to the pH of your waste.) The Dump Smart regulations allow ground dumping no closer than 100 feet from surface water.

I've had actual lab testing done on our waste water, which became the basis for educating our local authorities and enabling the reasonable regional regulations. Dumping into storm drains or letting your runoff go into surface water is bad for a couple of reasons: Suspended fine particulate kills fish that aren't accustomed to high silt water; Our systems force a lot of air into the water, which will also kill marine life. Oxidizers will kill marine life. As mentioned before, a lot of alkalines spur plant growth, which can cause excess algae growth in waterways.

Proper ground dumping is fine if you pay attention to where, pumping to a sanitary drain is preferable. Never dump in the street.
Thanks Bryan, I will look it up and bring some info to this meeting.
 

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