Encap description- accurate or fooey?

[Mikey P]

How does encapsulation technology work? First we emulsify all the oil and physical contaminates within your carpeting, then surround each molecule with an acrylic-polymer barrier that prevents it from reattaching itself to the fibers while drawing it to the surface using controlled evaporation. This immediately allows the carpet to return to its original orientation so that it looks its best, not just after cleaning, but between cleanings. Approved by all major carpet mills, encapsulation cleaning could be the perfect option for your commercial grade olefin, polyester or nylon surface. Give us a call if you would like to learn more about Encapsulation and you’ll be amazed to find out that you didn’t need to settle for the results you’re use to.

 

[DAT]

Who wrote it? I dunno about the returning of the orientation... You can do that with just CRB depending on condition of the fibers... It does look real good consistently for about 3 to 6 month after encapping provided its been vacuum weekly, done it many times... also the bringing it up to the surface through controlled evaporation sounds silly to me, is that controlled wicking? Hopefully, this is a CRB user..

 

[DAT]

http://www.drymastercleaningandrestoration.com/commercial-cleaning.html

 

[encapman]

Maybe a "marketing person" wrote this. If that's the case, they may have tried to write sales copy, at the expense of total accuracy. Looks like there are a few overstatements...

First we emulsify all (all?) the oil and physical contaminates within your carpeting, then surround each molecule (each molecule?) with an acrylic-polymer barrier that prevents it from reattaching itself to the fibers while drawing it to the surface using controlled evaporation (how is evaporation controlled?). This immediately allows the carpet to return to its original orientation (how do they return orientation?) so that it looks its best, not just after cleaning, but between cleanings.

 

[BIG WOOD]

I just bought my first Cimex last weekend, so keep commenting. I'm absorbing anything I can find right now on encapsulation

 

[Jimmy L]

Matt just look up bonnet cleaning and the shampoo method. It's all the marketing BS about the actual shampoo products that seem to make it more complicated than it really is.

 

[Tom Forsythe]

I agree with Rick's comments. One other thing I would question is (draw to the surface). Encapsulation products have been designed to limit wicking. Draw to the surface is the definition of wicking. It is implying that the chemical facilitates capillary action instead of limiting it.

 

[ruff]

And while you're at it Tom.
Chemically or physically, how is the limiting of wicking accomplished?

Epoxy is a polymer.

 

[Tom Forsythe]

Part of it is that it is low moisture. Less moisture, less wicking. The primary polymer that we use in Encauguard Green is in all of our encapsulation formulas. This polymer has some of the performance of an acid dye resistor. It does not fill open dye sites, but will absorb liquids (stains). The stain resistance only lasts as long as the polymer is available. This feature is one aspect of the anti-wicking properties of Encapuguard Green. The polymer will absorb some of the liquid that would want to wick to the surface like any liquid that spills into the carpet.

 

[J Scott W]

And while you're at it Tom.
Chemically or physically, how is the limiting of wicking accomplished?

Epoxy is a polymer.

The coating on your non-stick frying pan is also a polymer. If the soil and the fiber are coated with a no-stick polymer, it is simply more difficult for moisture to wick to the surface; it is like traveling uphill on ice; no traction so the soil doesn't make it to the top.

 

[Cleanworks]

I have been using Bridgepoints encapuclean o2 product for the last two weeks, including today and tomorrow. 1 building was carpet tiles and came out fantastic with lots of compliments from management. Another was glue down polyester with lots of dog dribbles and footprints. Again it came out with very little effort. The one I am doing today is a double stick nylon. Reason for the encap is the installation is failing and last time we hwed it we had serious buckling. The Sprayborg and encap with just a scrub pad wipes everything from the surface, dries fast and so far, does not cause resoiling. Increased chemical and pad cost but half the labour. What's not to like. Yesterday, I made $960 before noon, including my lunch break.

 

[Jimmy L]

Had a few complaints about that encap O2 so I discontinued using it. One lady said it smelled like vomit. Guess it rots on the shelf.

 

[BIG WOOD]

Had a few complaints about that encap O2 so I discontinued using it. One lady said it smelled like vomit. Guess it rots on the shelf.

My friend gave me 3 jugs of that stuff when I picked up my cimex. I accidentally spilled a little on my wife's shirt, and it STUNK! Must be the same smell. These jugs had the old bridge point logo on it, so I wonder if it is the shelf life that causes that

Needless to say, I'm not gonna use it

 

[Cleanworks]

Had a few complaints about that encap O2 so I discontinued using it. One lady said it smelled like vomit. Guess it rots on the shelf.

I haven't noticed smell from the encap but I have noticed on 1 step stain removal products. I was trying one from Prochem, (I think) and it stunk like vomit. Maybe one of our chemical gurus can tell us why.

 

[hogjowl]

I didn’t order from Vacaway last time. Big mistake! TCS sent me something, think it’s Encapuclean. Got my first and only encap smell complain the first time I used it.

 

[hogjowl]

That ^ has nothing to do with the subject of this DAT, but is just as interesting.

 

[Old Coastie]

I haven't noticed smell from the encap but I have noticed on 1 step stain removal products. I was trying one from Prochem, (I think) and it stunk like vomit. Maybe one of our chemical gurus can tell us why.

Sulphite.

 

[ruff]

I have been using Bridgepoints encapuclean o2 product for the last two weeks, ..................................
and so far, does not cause resoiling. ..............

And that is enough time to tell you that it (or any other product) does not?

 

[DAT]

Had a few complaints about that encap O2 so I discontinued using it. One lady said it smelled like vomit. Guess it rots on the shelf.

I have some... No odor. They do get old..

 

[Desk Jockey]

I agree with James but the solution and deliver system are

My friend gave me 3 jugs of that stuff when I picked up my cimex. I accidentally spilled a little on my wife's shirt, and it STUNK! Must be the same smell. These jugs had the old bridge point logo on it, so I wonder if it is the shelf life that causes that

Needless to say, I'm not gonna use it

Why were you wearing your wife's shirt?

 

[Cleanworks]

And that is enough time to tell you that it (or any other product) does not?

Not really but because they are multiple day jobs, I get the chance to check for drying or sticky residues. No problem so far. I have used it in the past as well.

 

[Jimmy L]

Funny that a chemist can't address his own product after all of these months.

 

[BIG WOOD]

I agree with James but the solution and deliver system are

Why were you wearing your wife's shirt?

I have my secrets. But that smell is a turn off

 

[Old Coastie]

I have my secrets. But that smell is a turn off

L’il dab behind each ear and the wimminz will quit pestering you on the job.

I use a variation of that technique, involving phartrogen.

 

[randy]

Trying to explain encapsulation to a customer is just plain drop dead idiotic. Believe me, they could care less and just want the carpet clean. They find carpet cleaning about as interesting as reading quick oil change coupons. Writing a marketing piece selling encapsulation is even worse on the WOW what an idiot meter.

Sell clean, lower cost and super fast dry times. When carpet cleaners starting getting technical, wearing lab coats (you guys look like such dorks) doing cute little swab dirt tests and pretending to be scientists we make ourselves looks so stupid. People aren't falling for all that Bullshit , sorry but most are way smarter / educated than carpet cleaners. Start this shit with your average PHD and they will crack up in your face. Sell clean, not a method.

 

[Jimmy L]

Now go over on those IDIOT VLM forums and tell them that!

THOSE FREAKING MORONS!

 

[Mikey P]

Trying to explain encapsulation to a customer is just plain drop dead idiotic. Believe me, they could care less and just want the carpet clean. They find carpet cleaning about as interesting as reading quick oil change coupons. Writing a marketing piece selling encapsulation is even worse on the WOW what an idiot meter.

Sell clean, lower cost and super fast dry times. When carpet cleaners starting getting technical, wearing lab coats (you guys look like such dorks) doing cute little swab dirt tests and pretending to be scientists we make ourselves looks so stupid. People aren't falling for all that Bullshit , sorry but most are way smarter / educated than carpet cleaners. Start this shit with your average PHD and they will crack up in your face. Sell clean, not a method.

Randy is right.

Dear Mr Jones

Ive attached a quote for your upcoming carpet cleaning project with two price options

The first and lower price option is for a interim method that will provide beautiful long lasting results and very quick dry times.
The second choice is for a restorative method that will clean a bit deeper and provide more of a sanitizing effect that is best suited if you wish to wait longer between cleanings or for your more heavily trafficked areas.

May I suggest we start with the second option in such and such areas and go with the first in such and such areas than arrange to come back every___ months with the interim method.


Let me know if you would like a reflecting my suggestion for this first visit


Thanks!

Jimmy.


Oh and F you if you think Im coming out next Saturday, UCGA is playing AFU in the Cracker Bowl.

 

[BIG WOOD]

Trying to explain encapsulation to a customer is just plain drop dead idiotic. Believe me, they could care less and just want the carpet clean. They find carpet cleaning about as interesting as reading quick oil change coupons. Writing a marketing piece selling encapsulation is even worse on the WOW what an idiot meter.

Sell clean, lower cost and super fast dry times. When carpet cleaners starting getting technical, wearing lab coats (you guys look like such dorks) doing cute little swab dirt tests and pretending to be scientists we make ourselves looks so stupid. People aren't falling for all that Bullshit , sorry but most are way smarter / educated than carpet cleaners. Start this shit with your average PHD and they will crack up in your face. Sell clean, not a method.

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[Kenny Hayes]

 

[steve_64]

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