Fresh water tank issues

[Josh Almanza]

I was cleaning today using my fresh water tank when I noticed a drop in pressure at my wand...so I go to my truck thinking my water ran out but noticed I still had half a tank...so this caused some concern thinking I’m having pump issues. When I took the lid of my tank it showed about an inch of water in the tank but my truck leaned one way shifting water level to seem higher from my point of view. So my question is do fresh water pumps slow down when water level is low? This is first time ever using water from a fresh water tank.

 

[Papa John]

sometimes the fresh water transfer pump can over heat and stop pumping. I think you need a new transfer pump.
Or you can do like I did.
we don't use or run any chemical through our pumping system. all cleaning agents are run through our hydroforce.
this makes the "mixing tank unnecessary".
you can run your plumbing straight from the holding tanks to the cat pump.
this makes the following items unnecessary: the mixing tank, the chemical pump and injection system, the transfer pump, the mixing tank float switch and in the end greatly simplifies your life.

 

[Cleanworks]

So you are just rinsing with water?

 

[Josh Almanza]

So you are just rinsing with water?

No I’m rinsing thru the chemical injection system of the unit.

 

[Cleanworks]

I meant papajohn

 

[hogjowl]

What’s pizza got to do with it?

 

[Desk Jockey]

Your pump isn't working. It reached its own level by gravity and needs the pump to push it up the hill. It may need a new pump or rebuilt. If it is the pressure vessel bladder system it maybe ruptured.

Do you hear it running? If not check for a fuse or lose wire.

 

[Cleanworks]

What’s pizza got to do with it?

Exactly.

 

[rwcarpet]

water could be low enough to create a vortex into the intake hose. Ive had it happen while cleaning at 900psi and a low tank.

 

[Clean Response]

I had a few leaves get in my tank and then into my line... I got a inline filter that caught them but it can happen.

 

[Papa John]

So you are just rinsing with water?

yes.
If I think ill need a rinse ill add it to the water tanks.

 

[Cleanworks]

yes.
If I think ill need a rinse ill add it to the water tanks.

Wouldn't it be easier to have a last step chemical injection pump?

 

[Jim Williams]

sometimes the fresh water transfer pump can over heat and stop pumping. I think you need a new transfer pump.
Or you can do like I did.
we don't use or run any chemical through our pumping system. all cleaning agents are run through our hydroforce.
this makes the "mixing tank unnecessary".
you can run your plumbing straight from the holding tanks to the cat pump.
this makes the following items unnecessary: the mixing tank, the chemical pump and injection system, the transfer pump, the mixing tank float switch and in the end greatly simplifies your life.

I always wondered why everybody uses a transfer pump. My White Magic Commander has been sucking water from the belly mounted fresh water tank for 14 years without one. I just have to keep a loop in the hose to the pump so it doesn't loose prime. A pump rebuild would fix that.

 

[Papa John]

Wouldn't it be easier to have a last step chemical injection pump?

That how the vortex is set up-- but I don't use it.
we prefer not to run any chemical through our system.
we also mix our prespray at about half of what the directions call for.. Our 360i bh system relies more on agitation then chemical reaction.

 

[Cleanworks]

That how the vortex is set up-- but I don't use it.
we prefer not to run any chemical through our system.
we also mix our prespray at about half of what the directions call for.. Our 360i bh system relies more on agitation then chemical reaction.

I use a variety of extraction detergents through my system. From acids to alkalines. Haven't had any problems with it. Probably because of our soft water. I also use a lot less than recommended by manufacturers. My understanding of last step pumps is that chemical is injected down stream of heat exchangers.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

I use a variety of extraction detergents through my system. From acids to alkalines. Haven't had any problems with it. Probably because of our soft water. I also use a lot less than recommended by manufacturers. My understanding of last step pumps is that chemical is injected down stream of heat exchangers.

NO, usually just downsream of the PUMP.

 

[SamIam]

I was cleaning today using my fresh water tank when I noticed a drop in pressure at my wand...so I go to my truck thinking my water ran out but noticed I still had half a tank...so this caused some concern thinking I’m having pump issues. When I took the lid of my tank it showed about an inch of water in the tank but my truck leaned one way shifting water level to seem higher from my point of view. So my question is do fresh water pumps slow down when water level is low? This is first time ever using water from a fresh water tank.

Ya add water my fresh water tank will have a little left and stop pumping.

Need to go direct at that point or fill your fresh water tank up.

It happens don’t buy anything until you add water and check it.

 

[SamIam]

NO, usually just downsream of the PUMP.

Last step on my 405 and prochem machine and my Sapphire’s means right before the hot water exits the machine the chemicals is going out into the system there.

It doesn’t circulate through the machine.

You know that so nevermind

 

[Steve Lawrence]

Just don't tear into the pump until you are sure that's the problem. Sometimes it's a faulty unloader. Much easier problem to fix.