Still rockin my hoe.
- Thread starter Jim Williams
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Steve Lawrence
Member
Glided 802's here but I would like to try the Devastator sometime.
I've used the same prochem titanium my entire career but my second choice would be an 802/aw29
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
I've worn out an 802 and 5 or 6 Aw29s.
Tom's Dev is next, it can be Justin's inheritance.
Tom's Dev is next, it can be Justin's inheritance.
Jim Williams
Member
I saw where the WP 0530 comes in titanium. I might have to order one soon.
Jim Williams
Member
My new TM came with an aw29. Just waiting on a glide. It’s pretty lightweight.
Dolly Llama
Number 5
don't need a glide on it
cleans much better without one
350 psi with a pair of 03 jets.
been saying it for 20 years..
The AW29 if one of the greatest wands in the history of the world .
Light, nimble, affordable and cleans as well as the best
anyone that says different is clueless or a pack following magjoon that doesn't know sheeit from shineola
..L.T.A.
Desk Jockey
Member
I saw a Hydra Hoe in the storage shed the other day. Its was missing the valve and water line. There was a UT 40 in that pile too. Ohhh the 70's!
Jim Williams
Member
You're right. It cleans great glideless. I used it on two bedrooms today without a glide. The lower back muscles are not used to that kind of abuse though. It's also very easy to get under beds and dressers. I could possibly end up retiring the hoe to backup.
Doug Cox
Supportive Member
I use a 1 1/2 and a 2" Hydra Hoe. Haven't found any other wand I like. They are good wands.
Cleanworks
Moderator
Not all hydrahoe are the same. I used one from 1984 to 1995 then it got stolen out of my van as I was on a job, testing out an aw29. I immediately bought another one but it was lighter and didn't seem to have the same angle as the old one. I could never get used to it and eventually sold it. I have used tons of aw29's and found them very useable, some steamway wands with heat shields, very heavy. Currently in love with my mach 12. I also have a 2 inch westpak which cleans awesome, an 802, not fussy on it, might be ok with a glide. Still have a couple of aw29's for back up. Saving my pennies for one of Tom's 1.5 inch swivel.
Jim Williams
Member
They are not really a cheap wand either. Seems like the new ones are $700. They make a 6 jet model too. The funnel design creates great air flow and the angled jet is great.
Jim Williams
Member
I've considered buying the Mach 12. Looks like a great design.
Cleanworks
Moderator
The flat Teflon glide lets the wand get a little more bite on the carpet compared to the rounded glides on my other wands. Very light and great airflow.
Kenny Hayes
Member
But still use
Doug Cox
Supportive Member
I believe PMF made the original Hoe wand and those are the ones I buy when I need one.
SamIam
Member
Oh geez I just use my Hand tool!
I've used the hydra hoe, the 802 with the black glide, the mach 12, prochem quad, and the aw29 look alike. Out of my experience, being tall, you need to dump that hydrahoe. I had to borrow my friend's tm a few years ago, and that's all he had. I was abusing my whole upper body. I felt so sore and fatigued for a whole week. I don't know how a shorter person's body adapts to that wand, but for tall people...that wand is totally outdated.
Now if I had to choose between an 802 or a mach12...I'd choose the 802, only because the mach12 made jet marks on the carpet when I pushed it forward. I tried to adjust the jets every way to fix it and I couldn't fix the problem.
The $125 aw29 got the job done. I used it in my very early years, so I have no clue how well the carpet dried. My tm wasn't properly set during that time, so I'm not too sure how well my setup even did a job.
Now for anyone using a prochem quad...it cleans the carpet AWESOME, but you're abusing your body. You're literally making almost twice the wand passes (shoulder wear), and it locks on the carpet more (hip wear), and if you put a slotted glide on it, you're losing your suction. I recommend getting another wand as soon as possible to save your body. And if $$$ is tight, the Mach15 is the best buy for a good wand. Your body will thank you
Now if I had to choose between an 802 or a mach12...I'd choose the 802, only because the mach12 made jet marks on the carpet when I pushed it forward. I tried to adjust the jets every way to fix it and I couldn't fix the problem.
The $125 aw29 got the job done. I used it in my very early years, so I have no clue how well the carpet dried. My tm wasn't properly set during that time, so I'm not too sure how well my setup even did a job.
Now for anyone using a prochem quad...it cleans the carpet AWESOME, but you're abusing your body. You're literally making almost twice the wand passes (shoulder wear), and it locks on the carpet more (hip wear), and if you put a slotted glide on it, you're losing your suction. I recommend getting another wand as soon as possible to save your body. And if $$$ is tight, the Mach15 is the best buy for a good wand. Your body will thank you
Jim Williams
Member
I'm only 5'8" so the hoe has worked great for 14 years. When I bought my first TM my distributor told me to go pick out any wand and that was the most comfortable one. I wish the distributor I use now had more wands in stock for me to test drive.
Mine is the PMF version. The "Look alike". I've never seen the Hydramaster version.
If they sold wands like they sell chemicals, they’d have every wand ever made on their shelf
Dolly Llama
Number 5
as good or better than the "hi-tech" whoopty-doo wands that need to blow 450-550 psi to clean as well as an unglided AW29 at 350
most guys don't/won't or can't make the time to do proper side by side evaluations on chems and equipment.
Do yourself a favor, don't be one of them ...or you'll be doomed to be a pack following parrot of the flavor de jour
..L.T.A.
OMG! you guys admit using other wands besides the " ONE" pushed here! I have a 802 but not really fond of it and I have been debating getting a aw-29 for the last month. Prices all over the board for that. Is there a place to get one that isn't overpriced like everything else?
Jim Williams
Member
Amen to that. I never have been one to follow the crowd. I would still have a flip phone if all these idiots would quit emailing me.
Dolly Llama
Number 5
if not for easy navigation I'd STILL have a flipfone
have to admit I'm in love with Siri
"go to nearest Chinese buffet"
"OK, here's what I found, check it out"
802 is heavy and not as nimble , but will hold up longer ..virtually forever like Prochem, Butler, etc
AW29 and clones are lighter and easy sling all day.
They're a not a "forever" wand though
Catastrophic failure is when the tube separates from the head (if one is a heavy duty soap dispensing "wand scrubber" they won't get 10 years out of it)
another place they can fail (though not Catastrophic) is the manifold/tube that feeds the jet wye supply line and/or the jet holder it's self , the welds can break
Not all Chinese welders (or American) are created equal ......
I'll poke around the pole barn, Jimbo
I "might" have one that's are serviceable/rebuildable if you want to pay the shipping
..L.T.A.
Dolly Llama
Number 5
why you be hatin on those little chink bassturds?
they aren't drunks and drug addicts like the majority of $12-$14 an hour American sweat shop production welders
donno what a well made AW29 costs these dayz
$299??
..L.T.A.
Cleanworks
Moderator
eBay $155-195 brand new plus shipping
Dolly Llama
Number 5
link to particular vendor?
I don't see a wand ...just a bunch of algorRhythm'n blues adds
..L.T.A.
